Covid after jab

Makinganewthinghappen · 2021-09-20T08:23:15+00:00

I am just starting to get over covid and i have been really surprised how awful i have felt and how weak i still feel. Its the worst illness i have had in a very very long time. When i caught it i was fully vaccinated and ive just been wondering really if you catch it vaccinated and get quite ill would you have been much more unwell if you hadn’t had the vaccine - or has the vaccine not worked? I have tried googling this but its a sea of antivax commentary. I am really glad i have had the vaccine and would get it again i am just wondering about this really!

PurplePumpkinDream · 20/09/2021 09:49

@Makinganewthinghappen Same here, if I hadn’t heard of so many other people I would have thought in my case the vaccine didn’t work, especially as I had no reaction to it. But I guess we would have been much worse unvaccinated.

Cherir20 · 20/09/2021 11:23

Think I might have covid now after 2 jabs. Extremely dizzy and bad migraine sore throat getting PCR today. This is what happened last time I had it when unvaccinated feel exactly the same as when that started

TheDailyCarbunkle · 20/09/2021 11:31

Pre-vaccine, millions upon millions of people across the world had covid and were ill but didn't require hospitalisation and eventually recovered.
The overwhelming likelihood is that, had you not had a vaccine, you would have been one of those millions, rather than one of the much smaller number of people who were very ill and required hospitalisation or died.

But, there is no way to know. The claim is that the vaccine reduces severity and the need for hospitalisation. For people for whom hospitalisation was always unlikely it doesn't mean much.

Nerdygirl · 20/09/2021 11:37

Great post @TheDailyCarbunkle . Everyone seems to have forgotten that for the majority you would have been fine pre vaccine if you caught covid

ArnoldtheAngryTapir · 20/09/2021 11:40

@Nerdygirl

Great post *@TheDailyCarbunkle* . Everyone seems to have forgotten that for the majority you would have been fine pre vaccine if you caught covid

Whoa, careful there. That's dangerous talk on Mumsnet!!!

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Makinganewthinghappen · 20/09/2021 11:51

Daily i suppose you are right! I was never terribly afraid of getting covid but it did worry me a little. I got flu a few years ago which turned to sepsis and at the back of my mind i think i believe all diseases will now.

I am in my thirties and healthy.

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TheDailyCarbunkle · 20/09/2021 11:56

Sepsis is terrifying so your worry is understandable.

It amazes me how unaware people seem to be that any infection can turn nasty - even a cut to your finger or a kidney infection can be fatal in the right circumstances. And that it's equally true that every single person gets hundreds of infections across their lifetime and encounters many thousands of infectious microbes with no serious consequences.

PurplePumpkinDream · 20/09/2021 12:52

I guess there’s no way of knowing how a pre vaccination Covid would have turned out. Russian roulette really. Possibly the jabs give us something extra to fight it with.

dogwog · 20/09/2021 13:52

Well myself, husband and 2 teenagers have all recovered from covid over the last month. All unjabbed. Compared to people I know who were double jabbed we got it very lightly, particularly the kids. Husband and I felt rough on and off for 3 weeks, achey, and tired really.
That said we are not overweight and have no health issues.

HesterShaw1 · 20/09/2021 15:11

@TheDailyCarbunkle

Pre-vaccine, millions upon millions of people across the world had covid and were ill but didn't require hospitalisation and eventually recovered. The overwhelming likelihood is that, had you not had a vaccine, you would have been one of those millions, rather than one of the much smaller number of people who were very ill and required hospitalisation or died.

But, there is no way to know. The claim is that the vaccine reduces severity and the need for hospitalisation. For people for whom hospitalisation was always unlikely it doesn't mean much.

This is exactly what I was trying (and probably failing) to say on another thread, when someone insisted I would probably have ended up in hospital if I had not had the jab. I caught covid after having the jab, and felt shit. Four weeks later I still feel shit. However it's statistically very unlikely I would have ended up in hospital had I not had the jab. Therefore for me, it feels as though having it was pretty pointless. I had it to hopefully stop me getting Covid and missing work, and it didn't.

Yet the overwhelming reaction is a wide eyed and breathless "Thank goodness you were vaccinated! Imagine if you hadn't been!" Er....?

But as you say, we'll never know.

dogwog · 20/09/2021 15:26

Hear, hear. Lots of people said same to us assuming we had had the jab.( I don't tend to shout about unvaccinated status) I now feel I am, along with family developing natural immunity to covid. Covid will probably be around for years so is everyone going to be having 2 jabs plus boosters every year? I believe jabs have a place for the elderly and people with underlying conditions but if you are fit and healthy and not overweight you will probably be OK.

TheDailyCarbunkle · 20/09/2021 15:31

That's why the whole 'following the science' bunkum makes me laugh @HesterShaw1 - the beloved science says that if you're over 90, with multiple morbidities, you have a greater than 85% chance of being fine after covid - bearing in mind that's the population that has many members for whom a cold can be fatal. And yet people are determined for whatever reason to believe that if they get covid it's certain death, no matter what.

Chowmeinhotdog · 22/09/2021 16:45

@Makinganewthinghappen

Daily i suppose you are right! I was never terribly afraid of getting covid but it did worry me a little. I got flu a few years ago which turned to sepsis and at the back of my mind i think i believe all diseases will now.

I am in my thirties and healthy.

Similar experience with me and I'm in my 30s. It's very traumatic.

Chowmeinhotdog · 22/09/2021 16:48

@dogwog

Hear, hear. Lots of people said same to us assuming we had had the jab.( I don't tend to shout about unvaccinated status) I now feel I am, along with family developing natural immunity to covid. Covid will probably be around for years so is everyone going to be having 2 jabs plus boosters every year? I believe jabs have a place for the elderly and people with underlying conditions but if you are fit and healthy and not overweight you will probably be OK.

Most of my friends are London healthcare workers and several previously well in 20s and 30s nearly died of covid in wave 1. High level of exposure I suppose. So the risks are very tangible for me and I will be taking every vaccine I can get my hands on every year. I get that you're suggesting it seems a bit mental to get these vaccines so frequently, but for some of us in spite of the side effects, we perceive that vaccines as the best thing ever.

SpeakingFranglais · 22/09/2021 16:58

You also don’t know what level of viral load you may get. I had covid and was fine apart from a six month loss of taste and smell, I was digging snow in the garden I was that well.

BUT I don’t think I got a big viral load based on where I caught it, purely aerosols and no droplets, maybe if I’d had a big dose I would have been more ill?

Who knows? That’s the thing, you might think you’re fit and well with no underlying conditions but you may not know about them yet! Or how badly you will be infected.

Swiss cheese model for me.

Chowmeinhotdog · 22/09/2021 17:25

@SpeakingFranglais

You also don’t know what level of viral load you may get. I had covid and was fine apart from a six month loss of taste and smell, I was digging snow in the garden I was that well.

BUT I don’t think I got a big viral load based on where I caught it, purely aerosols and no droplets, maybe if I’d had a big dose I would have been more ill?

Who knows? That’s the thing, you might think you’re fit and well with no underlying conditions but you may not know about them yet! Or how badly you will be infected.

Swiss cheese model for me.

A good friend of mine had no symptoms, tested neg 3x, and didn't spread to anyone in household. But had a stroke. Confirmed covid + by antibody testing and chest x-ray showing mild pneumonia. Only symptom really was a fast heart rate she hadn't even noticed. This was pre-vaccine, though.

AFuturisticalSound · 22/09/2021 17:47

@dogwog

Well myself, husband and 2 teenagers have all recovered from covid over the last month. All unjabbed. Compared to people I know who were double jabbed we got it very lightly, particularly the kids. Husband and I felt rough on and off for 3 weeks, achey, and tired really. That said we are not overweight and have no health issues.

Are you saying that you had an easy time because you haven't been jabbed? If so we all know that millions and millions of people worldwide have had mild cases before vaccines were developed, since and will continue to do so, it's totally unremarkable

I'm not sure what your point is