Would you allow teenager to go to anti restrictions protest

[Tobeirritatedhdeh]

DS is 17 (just turned) and can drive and really wants to go to the protest on the 25th. Would you allow a teenager to go to an anti plan B protest?

It's not anti - science to not agree with lockdowns though.

It's not my opinion. But those protesters may well prefer the ruinous cascade of consequences of not locking down when others deem it necessary and it's their right to make that voice heard.

I would think he was an immature boy (which he is) and try and talk some sense in to him. What a waste of energy.

Now, if he was going with a "It's all a great stonking lie" banner, I might hide the car keys.

Imagine if people had power to stop worse things buy protesting.

The people happy with status quo thats how Lott's of bad thing happen.

No I wouldn't allow it
The plan is written for a reason

Loads of idiots all gathered in close proximity isn't going to solve the problem and may cause some people to then test positive

It's stupid and counterproductive

My kids are a lot younger. But I think my feeling would be I would not encourage attending any protests until he was 18. That might be coloured because I disagree with the reason for the process. So I think I'd feel like - he's still a child, living in my house, being paid for by me, he can wait till he's at uni to go against my viewpoint. I doubt it'd be possible to physically stop him though!

@FourTeaFallOut

They'd be encouraging anti-science views, and so risking others' lives.

This is an anti-lockdown protest, isn't it? What does anti-vax have to do with it?

Because OP said plan B, which seems to be restriction on unvaccinated people if the covid surges(from google), so it's not really anti-lock down, it's more anti-vax.

But 'plan b' included a whole host of restrictions in the event of a covid season that can't be managed as things are?

Off topic. Plan B has unfortunate wwz vibes in this context. Surely they could have given it a proper code name so the media wouldn't land on this?

No-one stopped me doing what I wanted when I was 17, so I wouldn't expect to be any more succesful than my family were. I would take the piss so hard re: microchips, Jewish space lasers and lizard people that he'd probably wish he hadn't gone, though.

How awful that you take the piss out of your child in order to belittle his views.

I just read this,

Under "Plan B", masks would become mandatory in certain settings, and vaccine passports would be made a legal requirement for places like nightclubs, outdoor festivals and football matches.

So more like Anti mask/vax/passport?

On another note, might this lead to a Plan B revival? Ill Manors is such a good film, and you can't beat The Defamation of Strickland Banks, so this would be welcome.

@Againstmachine

Some people can't have the vaccine, due to their complicated health issues

But if you expect everyone else to have it then so should you, otherwise it's fair enough if people haven't.

What even if having it would make you dangerously ill and your consultant advises against? Er, no.

Yes, and I would be going with them.

Plan B is going to get triggered anyway. The NHS is overwhelmed every winter.

@Medievalist

At 17 he ought to be able to express his own views - whether or not you agree with them.

I agree with this.

"17:00Porcupineintherough

Wouldnt ban them but might tell them not to bother coming home again. But I'm sure your dd has thought deeply about this and has got some really good insights into the issue."

What a horrible attitude towards a young person.

What even if having it would make you dangerously ill and your consultant advises against? Er, no.
If you advocate for others to have it yes you should have it even of harmful.

Otherwise you don't advocate for anyone to have It.

You can't stop a 17 year old from going.

@Againstmachine

What even if having it would make you dangerously ill and your consultant advises against? Er, no. If you advocate for others to have it yes you should have it even of harmful.

Otherwise you don't advocate for anyone to have It.

Yeah, right you are

@Peteycat

"17:00Porcupineintherough

Wouldnt ban them but might tell them not to bother coming home again. But I'm sure your dd has thought deeply about this and has got some really good insights into the issue."

What a horrible attitude towards a young person.

I love it when people who are on here day in day out hurling vitriol at others come over all moralistic. You are not fooling anyone.

@Porcupineintherough was very kind and helpful to me and others on here when were all sick with COVID back in March-April 2020, which is more than I can say about bams like you.

@Againstmachine

What even if having it would make you dangerously ill and your consultant advises against? Er, no. If you advocate for others to have it yes you should have it even of harmful.

Otherwise you don't advocate for anyone to have It.

Sorry this makes no sense to me.

I personally support everyone's right to choose, but clearly not being able to take something because it will make you genuinely ill is different to not taking it because you have made a personal choice.

@Tobeirritatedhdeh

DS is 17 (just turned) and can drive and really wants to go to the protest on the 25th. Would you allow a teenager to go to an anti plan B protest?

Can you explain how they can drive but have only just turned 17?

They've passed their test already presumably. So is it the driving that's bothering you more than anything?

Would you have to go with him @Tobeirritatedhdeh? You say that he can drive but does he have a license if he's just turned 17?

i wouldnt agree with them and id tell them so, but at 17 id not stop them either

I would let him at 17, better you know what he is doing as at that age they will go anyway