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How many cases in a class to close the bubble?

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Andacherryonthetop · 13/09/2021 08:32

Hi. I’m in wales and I know bubbles aren’t really a thing anymore. But in my sons (primary) year group (across 2 classes) there are currently 9 cases of confirmed covid. I was wondering if it gets to a certain number, are schools meant to carry on or move to home learning does anyone know? Thanks

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Andacherryonthetop · 13/09/2021 18:27

Thanks all. My ds has come home from school today and said that out of the 32 kids in his class, only 10 were there by this afternoon. Some went home poorly by lunchtime. Madness! Wondering how many of them will be confirmed cases and when we will get a call from test and trace because I’m thinking I should be testing my ds with a pcr by this point, although he seems totally fine. I’m not massively worried about getting it myself, I already had it last year. Just worried about him passing it onto grandparents.

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Hcolhcsra · 13/09/2021 19:36

DD's primary school have asked whole class to do Pcr test if anyone in their class tests positive but they stay in school until they get a positive. Another local but different county are apparently advising close contacts to do pcr. Our school was just advising lateral flows.

itsgettingwierd · 13/09/2021 19:50

2 cases in 10 days between close contacts at mine.

Special Ed so vulnerable children and smaller classes.

Quartz2208 · 13/09/2021 20:30

Just had email from school having met with the local authority/public health england rep/education etc and we have gone back to last year basically - bubbles/rows/SD where possible/masks

Given we have a class with 18 positives, and a further 5 in the year and other years have cases (not sure how many) I think it takes an awful lot to shut a bubble.

CovidCorvid · 13/09/2021 20:37

Local primary to me shut one year group today because of 12 cases since Friday. Not sure how many kids in a year but I’d be surprised if they had two classes per year.

CovidCorvid · 13/09/2021 20:41

@CovidCorvid

Local primary to me shut one year group today because of 12 cases since Friday. Not sure how many kids in a year but I’d be surprised if they had two classes per year.

Just checked, they actually have three classes per year…so approx 90 kids in a year. 12 cases with the first been on Friday. One case is a teacher.

FlatteredFool · 13/09/2021 20:42

At least 10% of our primary are out with confirmed covid. PCRs for contacts but can go to school while waiting for the results. Crazy.

FlatteredFool · 14/09/2021 07:20

A further 4 children are positive this morning. My ds's class is now affected so that's year 2,3,4,5 and 6 all with several positive cases. Last year ds's bubble didn't close at all. Year 4 and 2 did at some point but that was it. Now one week back and 5 year groups are already affected.

Frazzled2207 · 14/09/2021 09:16

I think it’s quite clear that the government hopes as many children as possible to catch it.
Hence getting a little bit further towards (temporary) herd immunity.

Quartz2208 · 14/09/2021 09:32

DS was positive this morning so I think we’ll up to 25 in one year group and others across other classes yet School still open!

Ceara · 14/09/2021 10:59

Pfizer are apparently seeking approval in the US next month for the vaccine for 5-12 year olds. Presumably Boris's plan is for primary school kids here to all catch it quick, before the MHRA approves any vaccines for their age group, so he can avoid having to decide whether to vaccinate them...

LivingInABuildingSite · 14/09/2021 11:06

DS1 (15) is home today waiting for a PCR result as a faint positive LFT yesterday after he was telling me how many in his year are positive already.
I got a letter from his school at 5 cases in the year, last week. He was saying there were even more than that by yesterday. Officially none are close contacts to him.

Haven’t heard anything from either of the other 2 schools my DC go to.

Cornettoninja · 14/09/2021 13:00

@Ceara

if there is a non-public reasoning I suspect it would be to get away with only vaccinating kids with one injection. One vaccine + infection (either way round I think) is meant to provide good level of protection against future infection. For children, who aren’t threatening to overwhelm the NHS and are likely to have a mild case that seems fair enough tbh.

One dose is also a much more marketable position for the public.

noblegiraffe · 14/09/2021 13:05

That plan might be scuppered by the people going 'if your kid has had covid, they don't need the vaccine', cornetto

Cornettoninja · 14/09/2021 18:46

Quite possibly @noblegiraffe but that argument is already in circulation anyway. I don’t think it would make a measurable difference to changing minds that were already made up.

FlatteredFool · 14/09/2021 18:56

Our school is back to wearing masks now and the years affected are using a separate entrance/exit although it's essentially a junction into one lane for the last bit and out of the gates so not much point but at least they are doing something. Older dc will be having the vaccine ASAP.

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Andacherryonthetop · 14/09/2021 19:18

Only 8 left in my sons class today and only 12 in my daughters. School haven’t provided any work for those at home either apparently

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MrsHamlet · 14/09/2021 19:23

School haven’t provided any work for those at home either apparently
I've not provided work for my isolating student in year 11. He's currently far too poorly to do it, according to parents, although his ten days are up tomorrow. We're not expecting him back yet.

RocioMartinez · 14/09/2021 19:38

I think this is the thinking behind only giving 12-15 year olds one jab. By the time they get the jab most will have already contracted covid so the jab will simply be a top up to strengthen immunity.

Herd immunity is clearly the strategy for schools. No bubbles, no masks, no isolation and keep teaching until the last man/woman/child drops. It is only in the past few months that I have had close friends and their kids contract covid and some of the kids (and the adults), have been quite poorly.

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Andacherryonthetop · 14/09/2021 20:20

No I wouldn’t expect if there was just one poorly child. I think that there’s over half the year with many asymptomatic that a work pack on teams or something should be available with a few worksheets or something simple to keep them busy.

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seaweedblue · 14/09/2021 20:42

It's rife in the secondary I work in, and has been for weeks. No one cares and I'm a bit past caring myself to be honest.

Agree that the govt want as many students as possible to have natural immunity, and I'm not sure I disagree with the strategy. As a member of teaching staff I feel a bit thrown to the wolves, but we are 3 weeks into term and staff are largely still standing, infected kids seem mildly infected and return after their 10 days.

I do feel for those staff and students with vulnerable family members though. We have one member of staff who is still v unwell having caught Covid last term. She was double vaccinated too.

All feels a bit 'live by the sword, die by the sword' at work.

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