School with possible positive case in the house.

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I have 3 ds
Unvaccinated Ds1 has symptoms started with a sore throat now has high temp and starting to cough. Waiting results from pcr.
Ds1 shares a room with Ds2 if he comes back positive we will swap ds1 and ds3 so ds1 can properly isolate from rest of house.
Ds3 has school Dp has work Dp will continue to work and will social distance/mask up as much as possible. Ds3 cannot socially distance or wear a mask.
If Ds1s test comes back positive what do I do about ds3s school? I know I am supposed to send him but that feels really wrong. I can't afford a fine for keeping him off and a further 10 days of him at home bored will send me round the bend, but I also can't send him off like a little bio weapon ready to infect whoever he comes in contact with.

I'm in the same boat OP. I am Pcr positive. On day 9 by now. DD1 is negative, from Pcr and daily antigens. Every single one. School day to send her in, so in she goes.

@ballsdeep

And I'm sorry, I think someone living in the same house can't isolate from others ,however much you try

You can, depends on age of person and layout of house.

It's what the government wants op and he will go down as unauthorised absence.

I've been told to work and dd into the school.

My eldest had a high temp last week. Took him for a pcr & kept all kids off awaiting results (negative luckily).

My others are being marked as an unauthorised absence 🤦‍♀️

@AntiMaskersAreTwats

I honestly hope that if anyone gets fined for keeping their children off for a positive case that they fight the fine all the way to the high court.

Because the government have made all the right decisions so far????

It’s very worrying this new rule. I love that CEV children now no longer exist, I don’t understand esp if they are to young for the vaccine. March they were told to stay in and shield now go out and catch it (because with schools having these rules there is no way not to). Don’t worry though as it’s rare (not impossible) for a child to die from Covid.
I don’t see how this household rule is a good idea at all. Primary it will be harder as the kids are not being tested at all, Mandy show no symptoms.

100% agree. Thank goodness your sister is using her brain and common sense

I have a brain and plenty of common sense, but I will not have a choice in the matter. If someone in my family has covid, I will be expected into work and may be teaching your child for 6 hours a day at very close range. Parents will never even be told.

I think it’s very wrong but please don’t assume we can just choose to ‘use our brains’ and ignore government rules.

I’d keep him at home today with ‘a headache’ while you wait for DS1’s result. If DS1 is positive, book the latest PCR you can for DS2 and DS3 (do they still post them? Even better) and keep him at home ‘awaiting a test result’. That will buy you a few days and let you see if he’s positive or not.

@Howshouldibehave

Are the school not allowed to inform parents? If you have CEV children in the class would their parents be informed?

My daughters primary wasn't badly affected in any other other waves. After one week back they 5 years affected including at least I think 10 in one year (60 children) It can only be down to change in rules. I am testing my daughter daily. One childcare setting hasn't even notified parents to be aware so they can test. The other told us straightaway.

But the guidance Is get a pcr and limit the contact / wear a mask and test twice weekly , yes you don’t need to isolate but it doesn’t say carry on as normal . People really need to check the guidance. For me isolate until all had pcr if negative then go out . www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

Two of mine were positive and two got subsequent negative PCRs. They went to school (as dictated by the principle when I called him to check they really meant it) and DH and I avoided any unnecessary contact with people during the isolation period. The other two kids and DH and I remained negative, despite positive DC4 licking my face, drinking out of others cups, sneezing in our faces etc.

This virus is weird. We have to learn to live with it.

If a household member comes back positive then the ‘rules’ as they stand (which I agree are batshit) mean that everyone has to take a PCR, at least that was my understanding? I’m sure the school would understand if you at least wait for that.

As it is I imagine with numerous positive cases being sent in during the incubation stage that most families with school age kids who haven’t already had it will have Coronavirus within a few weeks - I’m certainly anticipating that, presumably the government are too!?

@chipsandgin no it’s you should not you have to this wording has confused people so I know many are not. Or they are doing a lft instead

Surely we need to learn to live with this. It seems wrong at the moment because it’s a mindset change but for other diseases, we don’t isolate whole households - if one child has chicken pox, the rest don’t stay at home for instance. It is not viable for a society to keep household members at home because one member is ill. I also suspect that this is part of the plan - it will have been modelled - to infect as many kids as possible early on in the winter to allow immunity to build further in the unvaccinated child population.

In reality society has always isolated for new illnesses until they know more. Small pox resulted in isolating, goods grom infected ships were distroyed rather than risk spreadung the illness.
We have had a 100 yrs of flu now so the natural protection most people have is higher than when the flu was first identified.
Chicken pox did result in isolations when it was new.
We do not yet know the long term impact of allowing covid to rip through the child population. There has always been mitigations in place till now.
I hope covid turns out to be minor with non long term implications but im realistic to realise that it could be yrs before all the data is gathered and anylysed.
I would prefer my family to avoid it if possible and particularly at a time when the hospitals are likely to be struggling for beds.

Just to say, I’m really heartened by the number of PP being sensible an recommending daily testing and staying at home.

Our government is a shut show, as PP have said, and it’s great to read responsible and sensible posters taking more care of others than our government does.

Sorry if mentioned before, but if DS1 has it, then it is very likely that those who would catch it already have. The symptoms will only show later.

If you think DS3 is more vulnerable, I wouldn't swap rooms at all.

@brokenhairband I agree that’s the plan to get all children to have Covid now rather than winter. However selfishly for me this is the worse timing as I’m due a baby at the end of the month, third trimester Covid makes me cv. I have 3 kids and no way I can keep safe now just till I have had my baby. I’m not saying the world should stop living but I should have the option to take the kids out until I give birth. I have Like 11 days left. The thought of catching Covid now petrifies me tbh

Boris said that it was ok, Boris said that it was quite alright.

@Okkaaayyyy not sure if your answer is sarcastic 😂. But I don’t have faith is Boris and feel most of society is playing a game of “Boris says”. 🤦🏼‍♀️. Rather than using our common sense.

@Tinydancer321 I was being sarcastic, I personally wouldn't listen to anything Boris Johnson told me to do, the government have made an absolute mockery of the whole situation. OP if you decide to send your DC in I would just lateral flow them everyday, when me and mine had it they were 100% correct when backed up with the PCR.

It’s just bizarre!! I agree OP.

[quote Tinydancer321]@brokenhairband I agree that’s the plan to get all children to have Covid now rather than winter. However selfishly for me this is the worse timing as I’m due a baby at the end of the month, third trimester Covid makes me cv. I have 3 kids and no way I can keep safe now just till I have had my baby. I’m not saying the world should stop living but I should have the option to take the kids out until I give birth. I have Like 11 days left. The thought of catching Covid now petrifies me tbh[/quote]
I don’t agree at all that the plan is to infect children with covid.

I do however agree that families should be given a choice. It’s awful that parents are facing fines etc, for choosing to keep their children home in the circumstances. I can’t understand why schools are enforcing / complying with this.

@Bizawit what do you think the government are thinking allowing house holds to carry on mixing even if positives in the home, baring in mind if under 18 you don’t need to test. “Should”. It’s not safe. I’m not picking by the way. I suppose I can’t see their plan other than to get Covid through the school now rather than later. 🤦🏼‍♀️.
Class bubbles I get why they got rid off (I’m
Highly anxious about Covid however I do understand this abs feel kids need normality). Stopping house hold bubbles blow my mind.
Must be very difficult for single parent families too. If the parent tests positive how do you get the kids to school.