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39 replies

GreatBigBeautifulTommorow · 09/09/2021 16:23

The government has launched the Consultation into mandatory C19 and Influenza vaccination for NHS and healthcare staff today.

I can’t do clicky links but easily searchable if anyone wanted to give opinion Flowers

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MegaGengar · 09/09/2021 16:49

I'm very much against this. I work for the NHS and have chosen to be double vaccinated, but I don't believe that it should be mandatory.

I might feel differently if the vaccine worked to actually stop acquisition and onward transmission of the virus. And whilst I accept that it does reduce it, it doesn't stop it.

If the government were actually looking to protect vulnerable patients, they would not be making policies so that staff who have family members at home with COVID have to come into work and look after patients. THAT spreads infection. Change that policy and I might consider the vaccination one. But by screwing everyone (staff and patients alike) over by introducing such a ridiculous and reckless policy, I don't believe that this vaccination policy should be introduced at all.

GreatBigBeautifulTommorow · 09/09/2021 16:59

I gave feedback but not sure I’m much help as I flip flop!

I also chose to be double vaccinated and I would like all staff to choose to as I think it’s the right thing for patients BUT I’m against coercion.
Informed consent and right to choose is drummed into us for patients and a vaccine is a medical procedure in my opinion.

So I’m conflicted Confused

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GreatBigBeautifulTommorow · 09/09/2021 17:00

Ps I agree the whole working with positive people in your household is unbelievable!

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GoodnightGrandma · 09/09/2021 17:02

I would like to think that staff in care would choose to be vaccinated, but I don’t think they should be made to be.

Parker231 · 09/09/2021 17:07

Staff should want to be fully vaccinated to protect themselves and their patients. It should be mandatory. My friend can’t for medical reasons have the vaccinations, she attends hospital every two weeks for treatment. Attending her appointments shouldn’t put her at more risk because the staff treating her aren’t vaccinated. Her life is difficult enough. She has contacted the Chief Exec at the hospital she attends to ask what they will be doing to keep her safe.

Berniesknittedmittens · 09/09/2021 17:16

What @MegaGengar said. My trust are tripping over themselves to ensure we are in work; I'm not even sure when and if we isolate there are so many emails. People have a right to choose, be that a positive or negative choice. I'm double vaccinated and also have talked family into having it.

GreatBigBeautifulTommorow · 09/09/2021 17:42

@Berniesknittedmittens we were trying to figure out what would happen if a single parents child had Covid! They’d be expected to work from an isolation POV? Wonder if they’d have to take leave rather than the medical suspension we were having?

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Berniesknittedmittens · 09/09/2021 17:45

I think they would make you take leave? I have honestly read all the emails and can't figure it out! They don't have a clue, and TBH I don't think they care as long as there is staff in!

Mummyme87 · 09/09/2021 17:51

I work for the NHS. I’m double vaxxed. I do not agree with compulsory vaccinations. If nhs have to, everyone should be forced to be vaccinated… ie. general public. Yes there are a very small number of people who can’t have vaccines very small, but still over 10% of the population not vaccinated and therefore putting me at risk whilst I care for them in hospital with no masks on, and with their partners/visitors not wearing masks.

PopcornMuncher · 09/09/2021 19:15

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AmyFl · 11/09/2021 11:22

Vaccination doesn't stop you passing it on - so if you have a positive family member at home you can still pass coronavirus onto your patients even if you've been double vaccinated.

Terrhins · 11/09/2021 11:28

I’m double vaccinated & a NHS worker but I this will lead to more people leaving in droves. I know people who haven’t had it due to not sure of the lasting affects of the vaccine which I believe is fair enough.

I caught covid despite being double vaccinated however both jabs I reacted quite badly so I don’t know if I can realistically have a booster as I lost work days.

We see more of an uptake not making it mandatory like the flu than enforcing it.

Shitfuckcommaetc · 11/09/2021 11:31

All I can say on this is that it will not help with the staffing crisis we currently have

littleducks · 11/09/2021 11:34

I'm double vaxxed (though right at being of year so possibly immunity waning) and nhs clinical staff. My trust has the role you don't come in is someone positive in househild due to higher risk of catching but you do come in if a contact outside the home.

I don't think this is a good idea, I do worry about staff leaving we are so short staffed and morale so low anyway

vodkaredbullgirl · 11/09/2021 11:36

If care home's have to have it as mandatory, why should NHS get away with it.

Mantlemoose · 11/09/2021 11:39

I don't think it should be mandatory for anyone.

RolloTomassi · 11/09/2021 11:43

I'm against mandatory jabs altogether but the idea of baiting the few vaccine-hesitant staff into leaving the NHS during a pandemic is beyond absurd. Sadly none of this shit surprises me anymore.

kazza446 · 11/09/2021 11:49

I’m double vaccinated as it’s compulsory for my job. I don’t necessarily believe it should be mandatory but did it to be respectful to people I’m likely to come into contact with. However, I do believe it should be equitable across all health and social care sectors. It’s compulsory in social care so should be in health too. The social care arena has seen a mass exodus of staff from social care to the hospitals because of this exodus. Very sad.

gettingolderbutcooler · 11/09/2021 12:01

I'm a senior nurse. I think the vaccine should be mandatory unless people have an exemption from a medical professional.
If you choose not to, tough luck.

Egghead68 · 11/09/2021 12:07

Hep B is already mandatory for me.

I’ve no objections to coronavirus also being mandatory. Take up in my London Trust is appalling (only about 50% of BAME staff).

Our trust is not letting us come to work if we have household contacts. I don’t know whether we would get paid while isolating though.

RosesAndHellebores · 11/09/2021 12:16

Whilst I don't think vaccination/immunisation should be mandatory HepB, for example, already is and this, imo, weakens the individual liberty link.

Of far greater concern is the fact that there are Dr's, Nurses and other HCP's who have refused the vaccine and I seriously worry that these same misguided fools may have any involvement for ensuring my health is monitored safely and appropriately.

ACreakingGateNeverStops · 11/09/2021 12:36

I'm sat in hospital right now and I couldn't care less if staff are vaccinated or not. They're all waering masks, washing hands, socially distancing when they can. To be honest I have more important things to worry about at the moment!

Definitely don't support mandatory vaccinations as I think it's a very, very slippery slope.

Egghead68 · 11/09/2021 13:57

@ACreakingGateNeverStops

I'm sat in hospital right now and I couldn't care less if staff are vaccinated or not. They're all waering masks, washing hands, socially distancing when they can. To be honest I have more important things to worry about at the moment!

Definitely don't support mandatory vaccinations as I think it's a very, very slippery slope.

You might care if you or your family were elderly or CEV.
AlanisMorningShed · 11/09/2021 14:06

I used to work for the NHS and had compulsory vaccinations to get on the training course and then to start work, no-one seemed to questioned those.

Why is the Covid vaccine any different to all the other vaccines required to work in healthcare?

I may be wrong and misinformed as I don't work for the NHS anymore.

NearlyAlwaysInsane · 11/09/2021 14:39

@RosesAndHellebores

Whilst I don't think vaccination/immunisation should be mandatory HepB, for example, already is and this, imo, weakens the individual liberty link.

Of far greater concern is the fact that there are Dr's, Nurses and other HCP's who have refused the vaccine and I seriously worry that these same misguided fools may have any involvement for ensuring my health is monitored safely and appropriately.

Ah yes, let's brand doctors, nurses and HCPs 'misguided fools.'

Probably some of these 'fools' are highly skilled practitioners who may well be saving your ass when you really need it. Or perhaps when you're having that heart attack, you can refuse care when you find out the paramedic hasn't been vaccinated.....but you won't, you will just accept their professional and excellent care and conveniently forget the self-righteousness.