Vaccinated elderly outcome?

Karmatime · 04/09/2021 17:10

My father, 86, double vaxxed (AZ) and was on the shielding list last year. He had 2 - 3 weeks of a bad cough, breathlessness and loss of taste and smell. Managed at home with paracetamol, at no point was he bad enough to need medical attention.

maisiedaisy64 · 04/09/2021 17:18

My grandparents in law (both 84) recently caught it from my FIL. Both double vaccinated since March (unsure which vaccine). One has Parkinson’s, the other is on steroids for arthritis. One had a mild cough, other had head cold symptoms for a couple of days. Me and DH in our early 30s both unvaccinated were far worse off!!

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Nathalie1975 · 04/09/2021 21:47

Thank you for the positive stories. I feel so guilty.

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egglette · 04/09/2021 21:53

My grandparents in law (early 90s) have both caught and recovered/are recovering from it. One caught it in hospital whilst being treated for something else and the other in a care home outbreak. The first one to catch it was last year pre-vaccines and is fine now. Please don't feel guilty, OP - it can happen to anyone and it's great they've been vaccinated

Thewiseoneincognito · 04/09/2021 21:54

I hope they’re ok OP. Use this as a learning curve to keep DC away from the elderly family members from now on especially if they’re of school age, it’s simply not worth the risk or the sheer panic should they become sick, I know I’d never forgive myself.

Peteycat · 04/09/2021 22:10

The wise one incognito

"hope they’re ok OP. Use this as a learning curve to keep DC away from the elderly family members from now on especially if they’re of school age, it’s simply not worth the risk or the sheer panic should they become sick, I know I’d never forgive myself."

So you think it's a good idea to isolate generations from each other? How strange. Most grandparents I know wouldn't want that. Honestly how far are people willing to go with this.

Peteycat · 04/09/2021 22:11

Sheer panic? Did you feel like that before the pandemic? Most elderly people I know are out and about living life.

PermanentTemporary · 04/09/2021 22:17

God don't feel guilty, I'm certain they would have been so happy to see him. Vaccination has really changed things.

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Nathalie1975 · 04/09/2021 22:34

I am anxious about them getting sick. I was very strict last year about staying away from them to keep them safe and they thought I was OTT. I relaxed a bit once they got double jabbed. We can't keep away for ever.

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Peteycat · 04/09/2021 22:36

Your over thinking. Enjoy their company, take your kids and have some lovely time with them.

BergamotandLime · 04/09/2021 22:43

@thewiseoneincognito - could you be any more supercilious?! I have worked with the elderly throughout the pandemic and every single one that I've spent time with would far, far rather take their chances and see family and friends normally than have them kept away just in case they passed something on!

Thewiseoneincognito · 04/09/2021 22:45

Pete, who are you to minimise people’s concerns, you may not give a damn but plenty of others do. Vaccination in the elderly has not changed things as much as you’re claiming, someone over 80 is still at greater risk should they get sick with Covid than younger people.

ollyollyoxenfree · 04/09/2021 22:48

@Nathalie1975

DC tested positive yesterday and on Wednesday we visited elderly relatives (over 80). I am freaking out that we unknowingly put them at risk. Please tell me your stories of double jabbed elderly relatives that only had a mild case of covid.

My grandpa caught COVID at 92 before he'd had a chance to be vaccinated. It was only picked up because they were screening residents in his care home, and he never developed symptoms.

Your DC may not have even been infectious at the time of your visit, and even if he was, being double vaccinated should give some protection

Before visiting elderly or vulnerable people I tend to avoid big events and do a LFT to try and reduce risk but I think it's important to keep up visits if everyone is comfortable with it.

ollyollyoxenfree · 04/09/2021 22:50

@Peteycat

Sheer panic? Did you feel like that before the pandemic? Most elderly people I know are out and about living life.

Well I'd would feel something like "sheer panic" if someone I loved who was high risk got COVID, I don't think that's an unusual or irrational reaction?

Thewiseoneincognito · 04/09/2021 22:52

[quote BergamotandLime]@thewiseoneincognito - could you be any more supercilious?! I have worked with the elderly throughout the pandemic and every single one that I've spent time with would far, far rather take their chances and see family and friends normally than have them kept away just in case they passed something on![/quote]
I’m sure you have. Does that mean you can assume every single elderly person in the country is happy to take that risk?

Vaccination is not an invincibility pill for the older generations.

Peteycat · 04/09/2021 23:00

You are aware that older people have opinions and choices you know! Just because you want to project your anxiety onto everything and everyone, doesn't mean they want or enjoy it. Let them decide what they want.

Ollyollyoxenfree, yes we all know how you feel. However, the older people I know are out enjoying life, seeing family going to garden centres etc. It's entirely their choice on what they do. Not yours.

Peteycat · 04/09/2021 23:04

"22:45Thewiseoneincognito

Pete, who are you to minimise people’s concerns, you may not give a damn but plenty of others do. Vaccination in the elderly has not changed things as much as you’re claiming, someone over 80 is still at greater risk should they get sick with Covid than younger people."

Don't assume I don't give a damn, you have no idea. You just are so narrow minded that the only thing you think about is covid. Well there is more than that going on. The ramifications of isolation in anyone are massive. Covid is a threat but so is losing mobility and being lonely. Honestly some people just cannot think beyond catching covid.

ollyollyoxenfree · 04/09/2021 23:23

@Peteycat

You are aware that older people have opinions and choices you know! Just because you want to project your anxiety onto everything and everyone, doesn't mean they want or enjoy it. Let them decide what they want.

Ollyollyoxenfree, yes we all know how you feel. However, the older people I know are out enjoying life, seeing family going to garden centres etc. It's entirely their choice on what they do. Not yours.

eh?

I really don't think it's controversial to say that it's normal to feel panic if someone you love who's high risk tests positive for COVID.

ollyollyoxenfree · 04/09/2021 23:25

Ollyollyoxenfree, yes we all know how you feel

What do you mean by this @Peteycat?

Fauvist · 05/09/2021 00:01

It is the 48hrs before developing symptoms that are the most risky for passing the virus on. This is based on the advice I had from NHS Track and Trace after my child tested positive. She did pass it on to one friend who she'd been in close contact with for an extended period in a car (like an hour) but not to other children who she'd been in school with (school lucky enough to have windows that open properly). Sounds like your son was at the start of his 'highly likely to transmit' period when you visited those relatives so I really hope you have been lucky here.

For anyone else visiting elderly relatives with schoolchildren, the best thing is to just keep the meeting place ventilated (windows open or outside if practical) and wear masks if you can.

For double jabbed people the risk is obviously much lower of developing sever complications and there is also some reduction in the chance of being infected in the first place.

Don't feel bad. It absolutely was not your fault.