Kids had Covid in July, will school send home?

[rainraingogo]

Thought I saw somewhere if you've had a positive PCR, and especially if you were symptomatic, once recovered, you don't have to isolate as a close contact for 3/6 months?

I know whole bubbles won't be sent home under the new rules, but I suspect smaller groups will.

DD missed so much school last year with repeated isolations, I am really hoping she can have a term actually at school.

Can't find it spelled out anywhere though.

New school know ds had Covid in July. Still happy to have him back on the first term date...

It doesn't matter whether or not you've had a positive PCR. From 16th August children no longer have to isolate even if someone in their house has covid.

Guidance here www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection#exempt

Ah, there won't be a problem with going back, her iso period well and truly over.

I actually meant if, for example, her friend tests positive in week 2, is the fact that DD had it in July / early Aug taken into account in deciding whether to send her home?

No isolations for children anymore so no she won't get sent home.

Hmmm.

Wasn't there talk though of ending the system of whole year groups being sent home and PHE or the LA working with the school to identify and sending home only a "small number" of students?

I suppose I don't really believe we will go from whole year groups sent home last year to only the sick child sent home.

Maybe the detail won't be announced until the night before school goes back (again).

I work in a school and we've been told that only children who test positive themselves, or who are displaying symptoms and needing a test, will need to isolate.

There is no plan to send groups of children home to SI if they are a close contact.

People won’t be isolating unless they have covid.

I could have every member of my family at home very ill with covid and I will still be teaching every child in the school every week-what could go wrong?!

[quote Barkingdog]Guidance here www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection#exempt[/quote]
This is specifically about being a household contact, not a contact in an educational setting.

@Abraxan and @Howshouldibehave
Indeed, that's what I find perplexing.

There's surely a sensible middle ground between sending 150 kids off because 2 has it ... and none (not even the BFF or child sitting 2 feet away)?

I was just wondering whether, if they were going to do any sort of sensible risk assessed decision making about who should isolate, it would be relevant that DD has just recovered.

While we know it's not impossible to get it twice, it's unlikely this soon after (symptomatic) infection.

I thought under the new rules under 18s don't have to isolate at all. Have you read something that contradicts that? Everyone I know is looking forward to not have children sent home from school I hope we haven't all got it wrong

[quote rainraingogo]**@Abraxan* and @Howshouldibehave*
Indeed, that's what I find perplexing.

There's surely a sensible middle ground between sending 150 kids off because 2 has it ... and none (not even the BFF or child sitting 2 feet away)?

I was just wondering whether, if they were going to do any sort of sensible risk assessed decision making about who should isolate, it would be relevant that DD has just recovered.

While we know it's not impossible to get it twice, it's unlikely this soon after (symptomatic) infection. [/quote]
Based on past experience, I wouldn’t think there will be any sensible risk assessed decisions made, no.

@rainraingogo No if you read it you will see that it specifically states that children in an educational setting do not need to self isolate. The only children that need to self isolate since the 16th August are those who have symptoms and are awaiting a test result or those that have tested positive.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-for-contacts-of-people-with-possible-or-confirmed-coronavirus-covid-19-infection-who-do-not-live-with-the-person/guidance-for-contacts-of-people-with-possible-or-confirmed-coronavirus-covid-19-infection-who-do-not-live-with-the-person

It says the same for non household close contacts.
Under 18s don't self isolate if a close contact.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/actions-for-schools-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak/schools-covid-19-operational-guidance

This is the school guidance document.

Thanks all. I don't want the kids missing yet more school but it really is from one extreme to the other.

I don't think it'll last very long

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/1011704/202108177ContingencyFrameworkkFINAL.pdf And

this is the contingency document in the case of an outbreak.

The only mention of imposing any isolation for non-covid positive pupils is near the end - it's only as a last resort and only after other measures have been tried and failed.

Back when the iso period was 14 days, dd had Covid and we all did the 14 days straight. Then DS tested positive on day 15 and we did another 14 days. An entire month for all of us. It was totally bonkers for DD who missed her first month of the school year, the second half of which she was isolating despite having just had it herself.

A year later and the situation couldn't be more different.

@Abraxan I think that's probably it.

Here we go again ... .