Covid after vaccine

[Snaffletrousers]

Just something I'm wondering really.

A couple of weeks ago, a relative who has been double jabbed since April tested positive. She was in her 80's and ended up very poorly in hospital. She was only given a 50% survival rate but after a couple of weeks was well enough to come out and although is still not back to full health, she is able to get out and about again.

Many people I spoke to have mentioned that it was a good job that she'd been double jabbed or Covid would have probably killed her.

This week I have also tested positive after being double jabbed since April also. I have a bit of a cough but not too bad as yet (on day 3 today) and my temperature has just squeaked past normal a couple of times. Does this same argument follow that because I am showing symptoms even after vaccine, that without the vaccine I would have been a lot more ill with it (maybe not going into hospital ill but feeling very bad) or does it not work like that and I could have been the same level of ill without the vaccine.

Not really expecting anyone to know. Just general musings as I am very bored in my isolation.

Well I don't know the answer to that, and I have also had both jabs, mine since May 1st. The Government, or their advisers, have said that we can still get Covid 19, but that it should be less severe. I believe that a few people who have had a double jab have still died - probably from the India/Delta variant - but no-one seems to want to admit which (if any) vaccines have been less effective than others at dealing with this newer variant, maybe they honestly don't know at the moment? I am CEV, so I and my husband still wear our masks when in indoor public places, and use hand sanitation more frequently than before Covid 19. Apart from that we are not letting the fear of catching Covid stop us too much from enjoying life again. I wouldn't go to a theatre or similar just yet, because of the length of time I would be breathing in air from other theatre goers, and I definitely wouldn't get on a plain yet either. I really panicked and depressed myself deeply for about the first 4 months of the 1st lockdown, but I (thankfully) found that that level of fear was just not sustainable.

I hope you feel better very soon, and obviously that you don't get any worse. I think that the odds are in your favour, and even for those that do end up in hospital, a lot more are recovering and going home again. Please just take care of yourself as much as possible, if you have an oxymeter, use it to check that your oxygen levels don't fall too low, if you get a sustained level below 94% check up with 111 (if you don't have one can you buy one from somewhere like Amazon?), and if you start hearing or feeling wheezy then again ring 111 for advice. You will probably be fine, so just get lots of rest, read or watch TV if that is how you relax passively, listen to music, keep well hydrated (I suggest that you either have no, or very little alcohol at the moment), and try and eat some protein and vitamin rich food every day - but I wouldn't over do the protein, maybe a couple of lightly scrambled eggs, and later on some chicken soup - and if you can, also have a little of your favourite comfort food; of course if your appetite and energy levels stay good, then just eat what you normally would, with the emphasis on mainly healthy food. 💐

I've just found this article. www.kcl.ac.uk/news/vaccination-reduces-the-risk-of-severe-covid-19-infection

It doesn't answer your specific question, but for someone otherwise healthy, vaccination means you are less likely to become infected and, if you are, infected your symptoms are more likely to be mild.

I think what you are asking if what that more likely to be mild means; more likely for you personally than if you were unvaccinated, rather than the population as a whole. I doubt anyone has the answer to that. Say for those infected, only 10% have severe symptoms (as opposed to 30% who are unvaccinated) (I've just made up those figures as an example), I don't think we can identify who those 30% and 10% will be. That's why people are encouraged to use the Zoe app, so we can start to understand.

Does that make sense? We can look at population stats but not individual risk.

Disclaimer, I don't do any of this as a job, just spend too much time reading online!!!! This article was interesting: www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/covid-the-reason-cases-are-rising-among-the-double-vaccinated-its-not-because-vaccines-arent-working-164797