Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Covid

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

Original poster

Why are you having a go just because you don’t want the vaccine

52 replies

Buttonsam · 11/08/2021 00:26

I’m absolutely fed up of people I know who are choosing not to have the vaccine wanting to start conversation about them not having the vaccine and how it hasn’t been tested long enough. Then I hear them start to get annoyed saying “but what’s in it”. I’ve given up entertaining it and started to say I’m not interested in Covid just to shut people up. I find it weird that people get angry about a vaccine that’s intended to help. I’ve had both jabs and I just don’t feel the need to have a go at people for not having it. I accept its personal choice. Really irritated at family members doing this and actually find them selfish for not having the vaccine. God forbid if they ever get it. I do hope they don’t suffer with long Covid as it will be me and other family members rallying around caring for them!

OP posts:
DameFanny · 11/08/2021 14:40

Collapsed with what though? That seems like an extraordinarily high number. And what would be the mechanism for causing a seizure or a heart attack?

MrsLCSofLichfield · 11/08/2021 15:50

@DameFanny

Collapsed with what though? That seems like an extraordinarily high number. And what would be the mechanism for causing a seizure or a heart attack?
....tumbleweed......

Preposterous tales from the life of Ken McKenzie!

Foliageeverywhere122 · 11/08/2021 15:55

@BabyElephant2

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk guidelines.
Pregnant women were never advised against.

The women who took it early before guidance was updated for recommendation tended to be those at high risk of exposure like HCPs or CEV. It was their choice after discussion with their medical teams...

There is no mechanism by which a "dodgy batch" would trigger a sudden collapse. The vaccine can trigger a vasovagal response (so fainting - which would happen whether you were giving someone a tetanus jab or a coronavirus vaccine) or anaphylaxis.

Antwerpen · 11/08/2021 15:56

@XenoBitch

Maybe that is the company you keep, but I have experienced the total opposite, and observed the same on MN. The people I know who are not having it never bring it up.
This

Why are you 'having a go' OP? Hmm

Buzzinwithbez · 11/08/2021 17:57

I experienced the opposite. I'm stuck of being asked if I've had it or not.
I don't want it and would be very cautious about discussing my concerns with someone who has had it. That's just not kind or fair.

canigooutyet · 11/08/2021 18:01

Until around April of this year pregnant women were advised to not have the vaccine because the trials did not include pregnancy. Before then some CEV pregnant females were advised to talk to their HCP's about the risk/benefit of having it. Although they are still advised to talk to their hcps

www.reuters.com/world/uk/pregnant-women-uk-should-have-pfizer-or-moderna-vaccines-advisory-body-says-2021-04-16/

www.pharmatimes.com/news/new_advice_on_covid-19_vaccination_for_pregnant_women_in_uk_1367392

Vaccine pregnancy studies didn't begin in the UK until May this year and the JCVI was using data from America that was obtained earlier in the year

www.nihr.ac.uk/news/first-covid-19-vaccine-study-for-pregnant-women-launches-in-the-uk/27684

canigooutyet · 11/08/2021 18:10

Wonders where @Buttonsam has buggared off to.

Care to explain why you accept it's a personal choice but when that choice differs to yours they are selfish?

Or did you create this thread in the hopes of the usual pile on because people make different choices with regards to risk/benefit to them?

DameFanny · 11/08/2021 21:14

@canigooutyet

Wonders where *@Buttonsam* has buggared off to.

Care to explain why you accept it's a personal choice but when that choice differs to yours they are selfish?

Or did you create this thread in the hopes of the usual pile on because people make different choices with regards to risk/benefit to them?

You're projecting. The OP described her own experience, seemingly with family members not as reticent as yourself about sharing their options (/sarcasm)

But you're the one talking about selfishness, why's that?

DameFanny · 11/08/2021 21:19

Ok, I've re-read the Op, and it's clear she's talking about those specific people being selfish, because they'll expect help from her if they do get ill

So why are you so keen to deny her experience and ascribe all kinds of motivations to her?

XenoBitch · 11/08/2021 21:54

@DameFanny

Ok, I've re-read the Op, and it's clear she's talking about those specific people being selfish, because they'll expect help from her if they do get ill

So why are you so keen to deny her experience and ascribe all kinds of motivations to her?

If OP is asking about specific people, then why not ask them instead of projecting on to the members of this board?
Wellbythebloodyhell · 11/08/2021 23:11

I find it annoying from both extremities tbh. Have the vaccine or don't have the vaccine, I don't really care your reasons to have or have not, they're personal to you I don't need to hear it either way. We're all adults capable of assessing our own situations and making our own minds up. I'm happily double vaccinated, thought of no one else but myself during the decision making, no regrets. What others choose to do is no relevance to me, I made the best decision I could to protect myself. I cant and won't control what others do and neither should anyone else feel that they can or should.

LionGiraffe · 11/08/2021 23:29

Like many topics, it’s best to just not get involved in a conversation about it.

I’ve had both jabs. If someone else decides not to, completely up to them. Quite honestly I couldn’t care less.

Blinky21 · 11/08/2021 23:39

All but one of my close friends and family are vaccinated, we were all very excited to get the vaccine so naturally spoke about it. The friend who won't have it doesn't advertise the fact but I choose not to spend time with her at the moment, I have a CEV close relative and it's not worth the risk. If she spouted any anti vax nonsense, she wouldn't be a friend any longer

mog27 · 11/08/2021 23:55

I haven't had it and couldn't give a monkeys if others have or haven't, I believe in freedom of choice over what you put into your body and that works both ways. I'd say it's a 50/50 split between my family and friends but I don't know anyone with extreme anti vaxx views or who believes Bill Gates is implanting us with a microchip and will control it with 5G.

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 12/08/2021 02:11

Vaccination should always be a personal choice with informed consent based on best information as currently available. The current science indicate the health and safety benefits greatly exceeds the remote likelihood of any risks for the vaccinated and those in their breathing space.

This below trending news article is arguably potentially murderous and a reflection of the madness extremism of some who have fallen into a nonsensical cult or misplaced beliefs with unfounded evidence. Again it is your personal choice but not your business to sabotage others rights and put these people at risk. Medical professionals should be those who we must trust and rely upon most in these ongoing surreal unprecedented medical pandemic times.

German nurse accused of administering saline solution instead of Covid vaccines to thousands of patients

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-nurse-covid-vaccine-saline-b1900597.html

Lupinhere37 · 12/08/2021 02:48

Yesterday my hairdresser carefully explained to me that the vaccine is just water with a chip floating in it. Once the chip is in, anyone who has a chip reader can look at your medical details, bank balance and any other personal details. She went on to explain the reasoning is that Macron and Boris Johnson are too powerful and want to control everyone like puppies. She was quite specific about Macron.
Even when I mildly said that maybe Brexit would suggest Boris and Macron aren’t colluding and that Macron had taken a very different stance on vaccines to Boris, she became quite animated about my lack of knowledge on this.
She said all of her friends know this. She was amazed I didn’t know. She was properly telling me off.
After all that, it turned out that she has got herself microchipped because everyone else has too!

Suzi888 · 12/08/2021 03:00

@Lupinhere37

Yesterday my hairdresser carefully explained to me that the vaccine is just water with a chip floating in it. Once the chip is in, anyone who has a chip reader can look at your medical details, bank balance and any other personal details. She went on to explain the reasoning is that Macron and Boris Johnson are too powerful and want to control everyone like puppies. She was quite specific about Macron. Even when I mildly said that maybe Brexit would suggest Boris and Macron aren’t colluding and that Macron had taken a very different stance on vaccines to Boris, she became quite animated about my lack of knowledge on this. She said all of her friends know this. She was amazed I didn’t know. She was properly telling me off. After all that, it turned out that she has got herself microchipped because everyone else has too!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
SupermanWithTheGreyHair · 12/08/2021 03:12

I know a fair few people who are not having the vaccine. They don’t start the conversations.

LionGiraffe · 12/08/2021 07:35

@Lupinhere37

Yesterday my hairdresser carefully explained to me that the vaccine is just water with a chip floating in it. Once the chip is in, anyone who has a chip reader can look at your medical details, bank balance and any other personal details. She went on to explain the reasoning is that Macron and Boris Johnson are too powerful and want to control everyone like puppies. She was quite specific about Macron. Even when I mildly said that maybe Brexit would suggest Boris and Macron aren’t colluding and that Macron had taken a very different stance on vaccines to Boris, she became quite animated about my lack of knowledge on this. She said all of her friends know this. She was amazed I didn’t know. She was properly telling me off. After all that, it turned out that she has got herself microchipped because everyone else has too!
If only the government had another, far more straightforward way of looking at my medical records and bank balance without having to put a microchip in my arm, there’d have been no need for any of this…….
Theredjellybean · 12/08/2021 08:07

I don't know anyone who hasn't had the vaccine, so never have to listen to anti vaxxers.
I have now vaccinated over 1000 people myself and having people faint or collapse is par for the course... @BabyElephant2 is talking rubbish.
We did 400 jabs yesterday in clinic, had 15 fainter, several did look like they had a seizure as when people faint they can jerk spasmodically.
Several went down very suddenly from standing up.. Having said they were fine with injections.
Its all normal and everyone recovered... After we gave them a cuppa and a bikkies

Fatboyslimschin · 12/08/2021 08:11

I've only experienced the total opposite. Vaccine Zealots sneering at people who have declined it.

Can we coin a new phrase of 'vaccine regretters" as I'd fit in there.

I've had both but I hate the way I was forced to have as I work with vulnerable people. I would have had it anyway only to protect to those people but no one should be strong armed in to having a injection.

Yes I had a choice - Leave my career or vaccinate, but losing my home and income isn't much of a choice is it. I hate that my choice was taken away.

I actually work with pregnant women, a lot of whom haven't had the vaccine and can completely understand why they havnt taken it, yet I have colleagues that are doubly vaccinated (like me) sneering at them - especially now masks are allowed not to be worn. ( We still have to wear ours)

I hate how having the vaccine some now makes you a 'good person', like a family member of mine who is actually a really horrible person yet is calling people like my lovely friend 'scum of the earth' because she has declined it. Yet family member was travelling beauty spots 'for social distance family walks' for Facebook posting when we were at our absolute worst and really not allowed to travel at all.

I'm waiting for the push to have children vaccinated. Then I'll probably be in the 'scum of the earth' category.

Tbf I hate a lot of things about how the Gov got society to turn on each other and encourage other people to giving up so many social liberties but that's another thread.

DameFanny · 12/08/2021 12:23

She's not projecting onto this board @XenoBitch, why are you taking her specific family situation so personally?

canigooutyet · 12/08/2021 12:49

Asking questions is not projecting. It's how you have a conversation, or at least try to.

I am not keen on denying her experience. I like others on this thread have found the opposite to be the case. Are we not allowed to also share our experiences if they differ from the ops?

paddyk · 12/08/2021 13:03

Those not taking the vaccine are making an informed decision. The fact that it is informed by Kevin on the deli counter is irrelevant.....

XenoBitch · 12/08/2021 13:07

@DameFanny

She's not projecting onto this board *@XenoBitch*, why are you taking her specific family situation so personally?
If OP is upset by a specific family situation, then the people they need to be asking the title question is to their family.