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How long until we get pinged

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MulberrySquash · 27/07/2021 22:44

My DC was in contact with a child (who has since tested positive ) on Fri. We found this out on Sun via school message, although the message was quite clear that as the policy had changed, they were not instructing anyone to self isolate and that T and T would be in touch.

I have kept my DC at home and have been expecting to hear from T and T by now, but nothing. I will continue to SI my DC for the ten days, but is there a chance I will not be told to do this officially? I don't have the app but the parent of the child have passed details of all contacts on.

Asking out of curiosity really as if school hadn't messaged the year group, not all parents would be aware and obviously they wouldn't know to SI.

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annlee3817 · 27/07/2021 22:50

We never got contacted by track and trace, I believe that the school aren't allowed to pass on details to the infected person to pass onto track and trace.... We got the same message on the last day of school

IsobelEd · 27/07/2021 22:54

I suspect you won't and will be following with interest to see if I'm wrong.
I work in a secondary school of 1400 pupils school and know the HUGE amount of work contact tracing has taken out of staff time, evenings and weekends. It's been insane. How can a contact tracer do the same without access to school records and knowing who sits with who in each lesson? And would you trust a child to remember all the names of all the kids? My daughter wouldn't even know the surnames of most of the kids in her class, and certainly doesn't have their phone numbers as they just contact each other on social media. Another clear example that the government just has no idea about how the real world works.

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MulberrySquash · 27/07/2021 23:04

@IsobelEd yes I suspect they have no idea the volume of work involved once they stopped schools doing the admin.

I also read they would be contacting DC directly... T and T that is.

The parents involved here would have access to the year group WhatsApp group, so could pass on contact numbers for parents from that.

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MulberrySquash · 27/07/2021 23:05

@annlee3817 crazy isn't it..

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llm24 · 27/07/2021 23:07

Has your child been in direct contact with the positive child ?
If not that’s maybe why you have heard
If they have then isolate - why do you need T and T to phone you ?

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MulberrySquash · 27/07/2021 23:10

@llm24 yes they were in contact and as I said, I don't need them to phone me but I'd be interested to know if they will.

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llm24 · 27/07/2021 23:14

sorry @MulberrySquash my post doesn’t come over very clear

I work for t and t in Scotland and the definition of what we call a non house hold contact ( not sure if same in England ) can be confusing
It maybe that you wee one was in contact but not the type of contact that defines them as someone who has to isolate and that’s why you haven’t heard anything

IsobelEd · 27/07/2021 23:29

@llm24

Has your child been in direct contact with the positive child ? If not that’s maybe why you have heard If they have then isolate - why do you need T and T to phone you ?
She is isolating. That's the point. She's wondering, out of interest if T&T will catch up with them. The system in England changed on 19th July. It's now not the responsibility of the school, but of T&T to order them to isolate. My view is that this has been conceived as a way to conceal the size of the epidemic in schools in September, or at least it will have the convenient side effect of doing this.
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MulberrySquash · 27/07/2021 23:43

@llm24 it's ok. Am a bit defensive as I'm clinically extremely vulnerable and feeling a bit off colour so am worried. Double jabbed but not convinced it will protect me.

According to some guidance I've seen my DC should be counted as a close contact due to the overall contact in school in the days leading up to the child getting symptoms adding up to 15 minutes or more. Something like that anyway, I'm quite tired!

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Mindymomo · 28/07/2021 07:41

I think they should have let the schools continue doing test and trace until 2 weeks after the school has finished, not a set date of 19 July, as schools have had different break up days.

It’s good that your school let you know, even though they didn’t have to, so your DC can isolate. If the child tested positive Sunday, then there is still time to be contacted by test and trace. I have seen people have been notified when there is only a day or two left of isolation.

Lottie4 · 28/07/2021 08:27

My DD was pinged six days after, but she knew an hour before as the news had spread around her friends. A phone call on day nine.

fruitpastille · 28/07/2021 08:54

Similar here. We know because the mum of the positive case contacted me directly but nothing from T&T. So it's only because my DS happens to be a friend that she had our contact details.

ISaidDontLickTheBin · 28/07/2021 09:56

We've had the same thing with nursery - littlest DC identified by the nursery as a close contact of a positive child late last week, they phoned to say no coming to nursery for 10 days and that T&T would be in touch.

Nothing from T&T as yet - nursery manager said that as of last week T&T have to contact the positive case (or their parents) who then give the name of the nursery, then T&T should contact the nursery for the names of the contacts.

Bizawit · 28/07/2021 09:57

The guidance on this has changed. T&T won’t necessarily contact your child to self isolate. They are only contacting a small number of close contacts. However if your details were provided by the positive child’s parent they may contact you. There is no obligation to self isolate unless and until T&T contact you.

How long until we get pinged
ChristmasCovid · 28/07/2021 21:35

[quote MulberrySquash]@llm24 yes they were in contact and as I said, I don't need them to phone me but I'd be interested to know if they will.[/quote]
They will only phone you in the parents (or child if old enough) name your child as a contact - they now have no other way knowing unless this happens.

careerchangeperhaps · 28/07/2021 21:40

Same happened to us last week. School notified us on first day of summer holidays, 'for our information only', no need to isolate unless T&T got in touch.
To the best of my knowledge, nobody in the year group has been contacted by T&T despite there being a leavers' party (DC is year 6) 36 hrs before Covid child tested positive. All kids in the year group were present at the event (organised by school). Parent of Covid child said that NHS asked for phone numbers of close contacts. Parents didn't have them as they're not friends with contacts' parents and suggested they would need to contact the school.
We've just been sensible. I've taken DC out for walks / to play on the beach but we've not met up with anyone / visited anyone's home / taken her to the shops etc. in the 10 days since she had contact with the Covid child.

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MulberrySquash · 28/07/2021 22:25

@careerchangeperhaps yes exact same scenario even down to year group and party. We didn't stay as the party was kids, parents and staff jammed into a room and not one person had a mask on. I wasn't risking that as I've been so careful.
I guess I'm not going to get contacted then.

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Thatswhathappens · 28/07/2021 22:36

What happens if it is the teacher who tests positive? Is she legally required to give the name of all children and contact numbers of parents to test and trace? Just wondering on the gdpr side?

careerchangeperhaps · 29/07/2021 07:43

@Thatswhathappens I guess the teacher would refer T&T to the school and it would be for the headteacher / admin staff to cooperate. I would have thought that when you send your child to school, you're effectively signing them in, in the same way that you'd provide contact details at the cinema / hairdresser / a restaurant etc. However, in practice, the schools are now closed for holidays and so probably won't do this.

HalzTangz · 29/07/2021 08:23

@MulberrySquash

My DC was in contact with a child (who has since tested positive ) on Fri. We found this out on Sun via school message, although the message was quite clear that as the policy had changed, they were not instructing anyone to self isolate and that T and T would be in touch.

I have kept my DC at home and have been expecting to hear from T and T by now, but nothing. I will continue to SI my DC for the ten days, but is there a chance I will not be told to do this officially? I don't have the app but the parent of the child have passed details of all contacts on.

Asking out of curiosity really as if school hadn't messaged the year group, not all parents would be aware and obviously they wouldn't know to SI.

The parent of the infected child needs to give contact details to T&T which doesn't seem of have happened. You won't get contacted by T&T as they won't know (due to not being told) that your child has been in contact
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