Well, isn't this getting silly!

[BleddyHell]

So today rules for NHS staff have been updated...if we get pinged by track and trace, or one of our household tests positive, we must still go to work but have to isolate at home when not at work. I think somebody has lost the bloody plot, I really do.

Also if they have children then they have nursery or school runs before or after hospital shift.

That's crazy.

If someone in your tests positive you can go to work, with vunerable people?? What the hell??

Makes no sense at all but then nothing does. How do test and trace work that if I’m not answering my phone??

I’m nhs staff so I can go to work and potentially spread it to my vulnerable patients who are already sick - presuming I can go on the bus to work so that’s ok. But I can’t get the bus to the shop to spread it that’s dangerous!??

Wtf…. We can’t allow visitors in hospital but we are fine to go in even if someone we live with is positive??

I understand the dubious pings but a confirmed close contact?? Madness

Not too bothered about the app pings. I never got the app, because the only people apart from my household that I was in close contact with were my patients and we'd already been told that those contacts don't count for tracing because we're all wearing masks and we're NHS. But presumably this will apply to actual track and trace tracing as well.

I disagree completely with the going to work when someone at home has covid. My patients are predominantly elderly so less likely to have got a good response to their vaccinations (frequently telling me they got no side effects, which doesn't fill me with confidence!) so surely the last place I should be is at work. If the daily testing is LF that's even worse, one of my neighbours got 3 negative LF tests at the same time as a positive PCR.

It doesn't bode well for how the government thinks things are going if they're having to bring these rules in, does it? All the way through, we've never had more than 1 person off isolating at once, in a team of 30 ish.

But won't this be the same for all of us from 16th August if we've been double jabbed? What difference will a few weeks make really? They are clearly expecting hospitalisation numbers to go up a lot and they are worried about there not being enough staff if lots are isolating.

On another thread someone was already saying she is part of the pilot as a close contact because her DH has covid, but she is doing daily tests instead of isolating.

Has anyone got a link? I believe you but my colleague wants to know how I know and 'Mumsnet' is not my most professional answer! I googled but haven't found it yet. My boss won't know yet, we always find this stuff out from the media before we get told!

@Annoyedandirritated

How does that work out for community psychiatric nurses?!

Better than it does for their clients, I would imagine.

This one benefit of being pinged is to miss work! They can’t take that away!!

none of this makes sense.
My friend is a chemotherapy nurse. Up close and personal with some of the most vulnerable people with zero immunity to... anything, really.

And yet, if her child has covid, she can go to work, be in close intimate contact with those people, but can't go for a pint of milk, keeping 2m away from everyone and going through the self service at 4am to reduce contact.

Madness.

Ah found it on BBC www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57894392.amp

@3asAbird

Also if they have children then they have nursery or school runs before or after hospital shift.

Presumably the children would have to isolate, just not the NHS worker? Bonkers.

@User5827372728

This one benefit of being pinged is to miss work! They can’t take that away!!

I've been given a virtual VPN and someone will drop off a laptop so I can work from home. I'd rather be seeing patients than making calls all day! But I don't want to give them all covid...

Apologies having copy and paste ssues! I have reported my last post

This is what I was trying to post

Is this the info you're talking about?
www.gov.uk/government/news/frontline-health-and-care-staff-can-work-rather-than-self-isolate

If so, it says this:
The government is clear the change applies only to frontline NHS and social care staff where their absence may lead to a significant risk of harm.

The decision to allow NHS and social care staff to attend work after being told to self-isolate should be made on a case-by-case basis, and only after a risk assessment by the organisation’s management.

This must be authorised by the organisation’s local Director of Infection Prevention and Control, the lead professional for health protection, or the Director of Public Health relevant to the organisation.

So sounds like it isn't just a blanket policy for the whole of the NHS.

They make it sound optional, but depending on where you work that line may be rather blurry...

Good god they really are making it up as they go along. And nightclubs have to use Covid passes - from September. A load of good that will do for the next 6 weeks then 🤦‍♀️

They did this in my school before Christmas, you isolate if positive and testing daily if not.

It spread through the school like wildfire and the community as children were travelling to school on public transport, going into shops after school.

Lost the bloody plot!

@BleddyHell

So today rules for NHS staff have been updated...if we get pinged by track and trace, or one of our household tests positive, we must still go to work but have to isolate at home when not at work. I think somebody has lost the bloody plot, I really do.

Get over yourself.

They'll probably decide we aren't allowed to leave the hospital at all at some point!

but if you read the guidance there are loads of caveats (ie it clearly states the staff meber should not work with clinically extremely vulnerable patiensts or residents)and then it is up to the individual trust to risk assess and decide on a case by case basis. Knowing the speed our trust seems to work through and implement things they wont have this policy sorted before Augst 16th anyway. And if each case has to be individually risk assessed in liaison with infection control then that would take them way longer then the 10 days wed be isolating anyway!!

This is just as bad as last year when they were sending infected care home residents back

@BleddyHell you're scaremongering. It's not the case that all NHS staff can now go to work if they are pinged. And it's not helpful to start a thread like this without giving accurate information. Over the last year many people have seen their health and well-being deteriorate because they've avoided seeking healthcare or they haven't allowed carers / health professionals into their homes. Your OP is not going to help people make an informed decision.

[quote BleddyHell]@Reallybadidea I'm guessing thus is NHS wide, there's absolute hell up on nursing and NHS Facebook pages[/quote]
I'm so saddened by this decision :(.