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Further list of Critical Workers who don't need to isolate

39 replies

Jellypisher · 19/07/2021 17:10

The list is way bigger than health and social care services now.

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Crunchymum · 20/07/2021 13:36

@Hulahula86

I’m admin in the NHS and it’s honestly making me want to quit my job last summer having to work while all my friends were on furlough. Having to work in a hot office sweating in a mask when I don’t have to wear it anywhere else and now I don’t even get a break if I get pinged and let’s not mention the lack of pay rise!! I know a lot of my colleagues both admin and clinical are feeling this too!

Also with these rules you have to isolate apart from going to work so what if you need petrol or who drops the kids at nursery etc as being a parent in this is challenging anyway with staggered start times for different kids and having used most my holiday to cover isolation for my kids at various points I just want a break for myself and was actually hoping for a ping!!

I don't want to get into any kind of competitiveness here but you seem to think furlough was only alternative to what happened to you.

It wasn't. I WFH whilst home educating 2 primary aged kids and looking after a disabled toddler. I did none of my roles very well....

I actually don't know anyone who was furloughed.

aldkj · 20/07/2021 13:55

It is not that they are free not to isolate, it is that they can leave their isolation to go to work.
Not quite as fun as the media make it sound.
So please stay home for 10 days, without even leaving your house for a stroll, but please come and work a 12-hour shift in the hospital during those 10 days.
Guess which activity is safer?
The government wants it all ways. These people are double vaccinated and can do daily testing to prove they have no infection, but still can't go for a stroll. But the media wants to make out they are having a lovely time because they are free to go to work (while most other people get paid to self-isolate and not work). Not all super fun for these special cases.

Hulahula86 · 20/07/2021 14:31

I've had gto use the majority of my annual leave to isolate with the kids as unfortunatly if they have had a close contact there is no special leave for me to stay off and take care of them (4 and 2 year old)

We were working from home but were asked to come back to the office and i have asked about working from home again as its been a nightmare everytime one of my kids has a close contact and we have to isolate as I cant work so its either annual leave or unpaid. I've been refused the option to work from home so guess im annoyed about that too as that made things slightly easier. I'm just done with it all TBH its been too stressful juggling childcare covid and work!! and can only see it continuing. Before anyone asks my partner is as helpful as he can be but he runs his own business and as a family we need him out working so it has all fallen on me to do the majority of the juggling act!
and yes maybe selfishly I would love to isolate right now and enjoy garden days at home with the kids now the good weathers finally here !

Hulahula86 · 20/07/2021 14:36

@Crunchymum I sympathise as last year we were in a midst of an extension my chilminder closed due to fear and I was sent home with my desktop computer and WFH whilst trying to look after 2 toddlers and my partner was losing his mind that his business was going to fail so it was even more important I held down my job. Sadly I did have some friends loving furlough and going for walks down the beach everyday and couldnt help but feel envious.

Hulahula86 · 20/07/2021 14:39

@aldkj

It is not that they are free not to isolate, it is that they can leave their isolation to go to work. Not quite as fun as the media make it sound. So please stay home for 10 days, without even leaving your house for a stroll, but please come and work a 12-hour shift in the hospital during those 10 days. Guess which activity is safer? The government wants it all ways. These people are double vaccinated and can do daily testing to prove they have no infection, but still can't go for a stroll. But the media wants to make out they are having a lovely time because they are free to go to work (while most other people get paid to self-isolate and not work). Not all super fun for these special cases.
you probably put it better than me! again for nmy kids id have to say its ok for mummy to go to work and you to nursery but sorry we cant do anything fun or see any of your freinds and family on my day off.
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 20/07/2021 14:59

I actually don't know anyone who was furloughed.

I do and they spent last summer sunbathing and reading in the garden and telling me what a lovely time they were having. I was pissed off as I worked from home throughout having taken a pay cut. They got 80% for doing sod all while I got 90% for working longer hours than I've ever done.

theworldsbiggestcrocodile · 20/07/2021 15:10

Social care thrown to the wolves again. It's ludicrous. We've spent the last 18 months working our arses off to stop people contracting Covid, covering shortfalls in rota whilst staff isolate, wearing sodding hazmat suits to work. What was the point if apparently now we don't need to bother isolating at all even if someone we live with is positive... I'm at the end of my rope honestly. My teams are exhausted and confused and we've had enough.

HalfwomanHalfcookie · 21/07/2021 07:13

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

I actually don't know anyone who was furloughed.

I do and they spent last summer sunbathing and reading in the garden and telling me what a lovely time they were having. I was pissed off as I worked from home throughout having taken a pay cut. They got 80% for doing sod all while I got 90% for working longer hours than I've ever done.

That wasn't their fault though. I don't blame them for having a lovely time reading in the garden...why not? I never understood this jealousy towards furloughed workers. Many of them may be out of a job either now or very soon.
Iliketeaagain · 21/07/2021 07:21

@theworldsbiggestcrocodile

Social care thrown to the wolves again. It's ludicrous. We've spent the last 18 months working our arses off to stop people contracting Covid, covering shortfalls in rota whilst staff isolate, wearing sodding hazmat suits to work. What was the point if apparently now we don't need to bother isolating at all even if someone we live with is positive... I'm at the end of my rope honestly. My teams are exhausted and confused and we've had enough.
My understanding is that if you are contacted by test and trace you have to isolate (and therefore can't work). it's those who get a notification from the app if contact tracing is on where they can assess if the risk is reasonable. Mainly because the majority of people have no idea where the app picked up a contact because it's insensitive and you could be pinged.

If you live with someone who tests positive, you should be isolating.

The trust I work for has still said anyone advised by the app to isolate should still be isolating, unless specific risk assessment is done.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 21/07/2021 07:36

That wasn't their fault though. I don't blame them for having a lovely time reading in the garden...why not?

Fine, enjoy it but don't keep telling those who were working how great it is that they were being paid for doing sod all! Don't comment how pale they look because they haven't been able to sit outside and don't message saying you've just got up at lunchtime!

I never understood this jealousy towards furloughed workers. Many of them may be out of a job either now or very soon.

You really can't understand why some people might be jealous of people being paid 80% of their salary to do nothing? (I'm clearly not talking about those who were home schooling here). I took a pay cut for the privilege of working longer hours!

IrisPurple · 21/07/2021 16:29

NHS admin here too. I've seen the actual letter sent to trusts. This won't apply to people working in offices who aren't treating patients. Even after 16 Aug I will be WFH if I am a contact.

I can't believe your trust won't let you WFH Hulahula! That's really not on! Especially as apparently you could do your job at home earlier.

Although the one thing not covered in the letter or by the media - what if the critical worker's CHILD was told to isolate? Nurseries are still open...

HalfwomanHalfcookie · 21/07/2021 22:15

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

That wasn't their fault though. I don't blame them for having a lovely time reading in the garden...why not?

Fine, enjoy it but don't keep telling those who were working how great it is that they were being paid for doing sod all! Don't comment how pale they look because they haven't been able to sit outside and don't message saying you've just got up at lunchtime!

I never understood this jealousy towards furloughed workers. Many of them may be out of a job either now or very soon.

You really can't understand why some people might be jealous of people being paid 80% of their salary to do nothing? (I'm clearly not talking about those who were home schooling here). I took a pay cut for the privilege of working longer hours!

I'm sorry, but no I can't understand the jealousy. I've worked throughout the pandemic. It's been tough at times especially when my colleagues were shielding, but I have still have a job. My brother in his mid fifties was furloughed for a few months then guess what, he was made redundant. He likes to read, so probably read a few books in the garden. He's out of a job now.
HalfwomanHalfcookie · 21/07/2021 22:17

That was a bad attempt at quoting another poster.

kowari · 21/07/2021 22:18

I'll be deleting the app if I can get pinged and still have to work.

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