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Vaccine Anxiety

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VaccineAnxiety · 19/07/2021 09:37

I’ve name changed for this as there are posters who come to threads like this with no empathy and post rude comments

I cannot have Pfizer/Moderna due to allergies- so only one left is AZ

I’ve just turned 40 - have a family history of clots

I know I HAVE to take this vaccine, mainly driven by fear mongering about the unvaccinated and coercion but I’m very very scared and uncomfortable

How can I go through the ‘motion’ and get this dreaded thing into me without having a complete breakdown? I suffer from anxiety and panic attacks

I know after having it every second will be a living hell for me/ almost like waiting to die but once it’s in I will have to deal with it…

I’ve looked at the walk in centres and I have an option today or Friday so I’ll have to force myself to do this this week

For every poster who is going to come shouting about how silly I am..I am not anti vaccine but this vaccine has got issues which are just coming to light - menstrual issues, vertigo and so many others which the GPs/medical professionals are dismissing because they don’t know what to do..

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mog27 · 19/07/2021 15:20

I'm in a similar situation to you OP, can't have Pfizer and I turned 40 2 months ago so I'm reluctant to have AZ because I just don't understand what has magically happened now I'm 40 to make it safe when it was cancelled 4 days before my birthday due to me being under 40.

I'm trying to ride it out until more information is available but after reading the yellow card website I must admit the numbers of people with reported side effects has put me off. I won't be forced into it even though I've been threatened no jab no job by a manager. She wasn't so forthcoming when I asked her to put it in writing on company paper that I was being made to have it against my will by my employer though.

loobylou10 · 19/07/2021 15:20

I'm now of the conclusion that being an anti social git is the norm! I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm one too (and rather enjoy it!!) 😂😂

loobylou10 · 19/07/2021 15:21

That was to @thenakedmolerat !

Parker231 · 19/07/2021 15:23

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

The numbers reporting side effects is tiny compared with the numbers of vaccinations given. For the vast majority any side effects are minimal - I had AZ and had no side effects.

Abraxan · 19/07/2021 15:25

no, the side effects are horrific for a lot of people.

This isn't really true. For the majority of people the side effects are mild.

The side effects can be horrific for a very small minority of people.
The side effects can be very unpleasant for some people.
The side effects can be non existent for some too.

Horrific is hyperbole and affects only a very small percentage of people.

Re the blood clots - cod]vid itself can cause blood clots, including the specific type linked to the vaccine. It was one of the things they scanned me for when I was admitted with covid.

leafyygreens · 19/07/2021 15:25

@thenakedmolerat

reallybad are you given updated yellow card stats. each week and have the relevant risks for each reaction broken down into age groups so you have up to date info for the people you are injecting? Must admit i assumed that you were trained in the physical giving the injection and the very basics of what it is for when people ask. reassuring that the risks and side effects are highlighted to you and updated. so, what's the current thinking on the high levels of tinnitus and other neurological effects and the prevalence in each age group?

you realise that, like VAERS, the yellow card scheme is used to identify potential issues that require investigation, it's not a measure used to determine prevalence of side effects as causality cannot be assumed?

The purpose of the scheme is to provide an early warning that the safety of a medicine or a medical device may require further investigation. The MHRA will review the issue and if necessary, take action to minimise risk and maximise benefit to the patients.

roguetomato · 19/07/2021 15:25

You don't need to have it if you don't want to. You shouldn't take it just because you feel you've been pressured to.

You need to make your own decision. Take it or not take it, which choice have more impact on you? Do you feel strong enough to fight the illness if you caught it? Do you think taking vaccine makes you feel safer after few weeks of the caution period is over?

clarkkentsglasses · 19/07/2021 15:29

Why do you have to have it @VaccineAnxiety

Nobody HAS to have it.

Parker231 · 19/07/2021 15:37

No one has to have the vaccine but it’s a good feeling to be protected.

stoneysongs · 19/07/2021 15:38

Maybe you could decide to go along to the vaccination centre. So you're not deciding to have the vaccine yet. Just go along and ask if you can speak to the nurse in charge about your worries. They will be honest with you about your risk factors and what they mean. And then you can decide whether or not to have it. At the vaccine centre where I volunteer, all the staff are HCPs. They will be really nice to you and if you do want to be vaccinated they will be quick, efficient and very kind - I know this because we see a lot of very anxious people. And they won't mind if after a chat you actually decide it's not right for you.

So for now - just decide you'll go along to find out more about it. If you want to take someone with you for moral support, that would be fine where I work.

Mintjulia · 19/07/2021 15:46

Perhaps look calmly at the numbers. 46.1 million doses of AZ in the UK, and 399 bad reactions. so fewer than 1 person in 115,000 has a bad reaction.

Stats from the British Heart Foundation 7 days ago.

FizziWater · 19/07/2021 15:48

@mog27

The AZ was withdrawn from under 40s when covid rates were very, low so the risk of catching covid was much lower than it is today. If you catch covid there is a much greater risk of organ damage, clots etc than from the vaccine. The risks from vaccine are tiny.

And routine side effects are not horrific they are mildly unpleasant for a few hours. My youngest DC (22)had both doses of AZ before they stopped using it. He was very happy to be protected.

MareofBeasttown · 19/07/2021 15:49

@Mintjulia

Perhaps look calmly at the numbers. 46.1 million doses of AZ in the UK, and 399 bad reactions. so fewer than 1 person in 115,000 has a bad reaction.

Stats from the British Heart Foundation 7 days ago.

So much this. Anecdotes are worth nothing.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/07/2021 15:53

Do you actually WANT the vaccine.

I'm terrified of flying but I want to go places so I have used variously Valium, hypnosis, grounding techniques etc. And I fly.

But if I didn't want to fly, I wouldn't.

I want to be on the other side of my anxiety. Do you? Because the advice is different depending. If you do, seek help, get meds, get support, talk to people. If you don't, the advice is either lie to your loved ones or style it out. There's plenty of people not having it and maybe you need advice on assertiveness with those who pressure you and what to do with feelings around the media.

thenakedmolerat · 19/07/2021 16:11

@Mintjulia

Perhaps look calmly at the numbers. 46.1 million doses of AZ in the UK, and 399 bad reactions. so fewer than 1 person in 115,000 has a bad reaction.

Stats from the British Heart Foundation 7 days ago.

399 bad reactions? In total? For all the injections? Up to 7 July 2021, the MHRA had received Yellow Card reports of 405 cases of major thromboembolic events (blood clots) with concurrent thrombocytopenia (low platelet counts) in the UK following vaccination with COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. Thirty nine of the 405 reports have been reported after a second dose. Of the 405 reports, 208 occurred in women, and 195 occurred in men aged from 18 to 93 years. The overall case fatality rate was 18% with 74 deaths, six of which occurred after the second dose

there's 405 serious reactions involving one type of the injection and one specific adverse effect.
Where on earth did you get 399 from?

Mintjulia · 19/07/2021 16:50

No, Yellow card reports are not necessarily bad reactions, they are unexpected possible reactions, reported by the individual.

I have one myself, but it wasn't a bad reaction, just odd. I also don't have any proof the vaccine and the reaction were related. Still yellow carded.

Mintjulia · 19/07/2021 16:52

399 to the 30th June, reported on the BHF web site.

www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine

thenakedmolerat · 19/07/2021 17:09

[quote Mintjulia]399 to the 30th June, reported on the BHF web site.

www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine[/quote]
I think I'd rather trust the gov.s own reporting system, even if the estimate is only 1% of adverse reactions are reported

Mintjulia · 19/07/2021 17:17

The BHF have used the govt figures. If you read the notes, that's where the figures came from. 399 to 30th June or 407 to July 12th.

They are the same figures, just slightly different dates.

OnTheBrink1 · 19/07/2021 22:15

I know exactly how you feel- I have been in a similar position.
I think you have to weight up, what are you most worried about… something going wrong with the vaccine or getting covid and being unlucky and having it badly. Which way do the scales tip for you?
Neither is a great option and you will be nervous either way. I was petrified either way.
However after refusing the vax for months because I strongly felt that the vax was worse for me, it’s recently tipped the other way. I forced myself into a walk in centre and got it done. Bag of nerves but was also just happy it was done.
So which way do the scales tip for you?

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VaccineAnxiety · 19/07/2021 23:03

@MrsTerryPratchett if I have to answer the question now with a yes or no then as of not it’s a no- I don’t want it is my gut feel

I’m terrified of flying and i struggle every time I have to fly home

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VaccineAnxiety · 19/07/2021 23:05

@OnTheBrink1 yes that’s exactly it- currently I’m hovering in the middle hence why this is so difficult- I’m petrified of both Covid and the vaccine

And everyone around me constantly bombards me with hospital stories which doesn’t help

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Wolfiefan · 19/07/2021 23:14

Could you have a discussion with those who do your CBT? Apologies if I missed the answer.
It’s no good discussing this with people who just want you jabbed or who don’t understand anxiety.

FiveToedSloth · 20/07/2021 01:37

I know I HAVE to take this vaccine, mainly driven by fear mongering about the unvaccinated and coercion but I’m very very scared and uncomfortable

You have to have the vaccine because of coercion? No you don’t. Just don’t have it! I’m not having it. I won’t be coerced into having it. I’ve had covid and it was pretty bad, but I was more ill with a dose of flu in 1997 when hospitals were more overrun than they have been with covid, probably more deaths than with covid, post viral syndrome (not much different to covid), but no lockdown, no Nightingales hospitals, no emergency trial vaccines forced into people with consequences for refusal etc. I know one person who died with complications of covid and one person who died within a day or two of the vaccine (both in their 40s) and I currently know of many double jabbed people unwell with covid. I know many jabbed who have ongoing health issues including joint pain and swelling. I know of one person who has been diagnosed with leukaemia two months after being jabbed. This just isn’t right. There is absolutely no evidence that the vaccines have saved any lives (mathematical predictions are not prof) but there is a lot of evidence of deaths caused by the vaccines.

OuiOuiKitty · 20/07/2021 01:44

Is the Janssen vaccine going to be available in the UK soon? If it is maybe wait for that? At least then it will be one and done so you will only have to go through it once?

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