Get vaccinated or get COVID...

[wheresmymojo]

I think this (see pics for Sky news story and tweet) actually means the Govt's strategy is the right one?

I've always been quite cautious about COVID and was in favour of lockdowns and delaying the opening up until July but basically the data shows that with the Delta variant being so highly transmissible there isn't any such thing as 'herd immunity'.

If you don't get vaccinated, or the vaccine doesn't work for you, then you will get COVID. It's just a matter of when, not if.

So as horrible as it is (and I have massive sympathies for the immune suppressed and anyone the vaccine doesn't work for) there is no point continuing to shield the remaining vulnerable because they'd have to shield for the rest of their lives.

It's a horrible conclusion to face...but that seems to be what the data is saying...

@loulouljh

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Funny how vaccine-deniers who call everyone else sheep all sound the same ...

Survival of the fittest and although children will not perish - very very few may contract long Covid disabilities.

It does seem that even most of the vaccinated will catch it eventually but hopefully it will be a mild illness for most of them.

I think though many cev live with others. My dad went to the football at the pub so probably exposing mum. You cant choose to be careful if you have kids.it's ripped through school this time

I’ve thought this would be the case for a while, esp for dc

Lockdowns only delay the sage messaging was to get us to do it

Safe not sage

Yes I read this a week ago
Not nice is it
On the plus side many have already had it. On the downside many can’t have vaccine including kids and some vulnerable and others won’t
So with the move to delta we’re screwed. We would have got to herd immunity by now with alpha…..

@user1471453601

So, using your logic, it's not clear what you think cev people should do.

It was difficult enough to be cev when it was the law that masks should be worn and people should respect the two meter rule, but given that's now gone, how would you recommend cev people should manage even the remotest semblance of a normal life?

As a cev person, I've ventured out on occasions with double vaccinated people like me. We've gone to restaurants because they had the two meter and mask rules, and we had to give contact details in case anyone there later tested p positive.
Now not only don't we have these rules, but the government is talking about making the nhs app " less sensitive ". That reads to me like making the app less accurate.

So, is it the case that cev people either choose to dice with death to save others from the inconvenience of staying two meters apart and wear a mask, and employers the inconvenience of staff having to isolate, or that cev people and those they live with choose to , simply never socialise again?

Which is it?

We can’t stick with these rules forever. Many businesses can’t survive with 2m rule and it’s not foolproof anyway, especially with the more transmissible delta. Unfortunately that is going to be the choice for any CEV people that the vaccine might not work for. Same as the choice those vulnerable to other illnesses have always had to make. What else can be done?

It does seem that even most of the vaccinated will catch it eventually but hopefully it will be a mild illness for most of them

Vaccination reduces the risk of catching it by 85%…. how does that translate into even vaccinated people will catch it eventually?

If you don't get vaccinated, or the vaccine doesn't work for you, then you will get COVID. It's just a matter of when, not if.

Have you heard of pre existing t cell immunity? No, thought not. Why do you think 1 in 3 are asymptomatic, as in you know don't develop covid when exposed to Sars Cov 2?
I've been exposed/close contacted several times. Mainly from colleagues I work in very close proximity to, never tested postive. So no it is certainly not a given that everyone will get covid. 1 in 3 of us won't.

And of course vaccinated people can get covid, thousands currently do.