Menorca quarantine

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I'm sure there's a simple, obvious answer, but why are uk quarantining from menorca when their case rates per 100,000 are much lower than ours? Also, why is double vaccinated considered as good as a negative test, given you can still catch and spread covid, albeit less likely (I'm double jabbed so not an anti vaccine thread)?

A more pressing question is why the hell is ANY country letting us in at all? They’re all going to be Delta’d as soon as summer holiday tourists flock in.

@SecretKeeper1

A more pressing question is why the hell is ANY country letting us in at all? They’re all going to be Delta’d as soon as summer holiday tourists flock in.

You have a correct head. I'm waiting for other countries to close their doors to us

I agree. Obviously desperately need tourism, but given restrictions over the last year, I'd have thought they can get their tourists from countries with lower rates!

Other countries would be more likely to book holidays if us sun-starved Brits with our mucky germs weren’t there.

Germany: I see you eyeing up our loungers. Well this year, you can have them; we shouldn’t be allowed out to play.

(Slightly over invested as I need my flights to be cancelled or I get no refund. Booked 2019 before anyone tells me off)

A friend and I were wondering if it is due to the number of people testing positive when arriving home from there. Those numbers wouldn’t affect Menorca’s case rates.

@Acrasia

A friend and I were wondering if it is due to the number of people testing positive when arriving home from there. Those numbers wouldn’t affect Menorca’s case rates.

Maybe the actual rates in Minorca are much much higher than published as our published rates are far higher than theirs at the moment.

@SecretKeeper1

A more pressing question is why the hell is ANY country letting us in at all? They’re all going to be Delta’d as soon as summer holiday tourists flock in.

Probably because up until last week it only became a problem for them if they were unlucky enough to be put on the green list. You don’t have to go through the hassle of banning people from the U.K. if the U.K. government are doing their best to dissuade its citizens from travelling.

Once we opened up the amber list to double vaccinated and kids it became a whole new ball game.

Menorca have a really high positivity rate, about 17.5%

Per 100,000, we are still higher though? Balearics 205 cases per 100,000 people, UK 330? If those numbers are so risky that non vaxed have to quarantine, why are we not doing the equivalent here for everyone (e.g. mini lockdown "quarantining" non-vaxed here). I'm not actually suggesting doing that btw, I'm just struggling to understand the logic as our rates are so much higher.

You are assuming logic was used. I think that might be a mistake.

Fair point! It just seems weird that we are saying "shit, quarantine, cases are really high" when rates per 100,000 are so much higher here. I guess the double-vaxed and under 18s not having to quarantine is a nod to economics and tourism sector, but how I wish they just gave their rationale so it wasn't so confusing trying to work out wtf was going on. (Mind you, it would be hard to say, look guys, I want to go to India, so nope it ain't going on any red list until I'm made to do so kicking and screaming and way too late).

It does make no sense and the real issue is that the government have to continue with the policy because changing it would highlight how much of a hole the U.K. is currently in while they are pushing freedom day.

Genuinely don’t think they’d considered what would happen when the U.K. essentially ended up on their own red list and now they are stuck.

'Genuinely don’t think they’d considered what would happen when the U.K. essentially ended up on their own red list and now they are stuck.'
It's like a bad parody!

Absolutely nothing makes sense about this nonsensical travel list. Hong Kong is on the green list but hasn't accepted any UK flights landing since the 1st of July due to the delta variant. This variant shows no signs of going anywhere but up.

I'm beginning to wonder why I've booked flights to Mallorca in September, albeit flexible tickets ☹️

Europe is already flooded with Delta so that makes no difference.

Don't forget that in the UK we are actively looking for positive cases (lateral flow tests being handed out to all and sundry etc), compared to some other countries where they are slower to test unless you have symptoms.

I have family in Spain and Netherlands who have struggled to get tested.

So it makes you wonder whether our cases are actually higher or whether it's down to the fact we've gone looking?

Also something like around half of the all the worlds testing for variants is carried out by the UK. So it looks like we have higher rate of the Delta variant but if other countries are not doing as much monitoring- how the hell would they know?

baleares has been a big hotspot for many of the cases across the whole of Spain, there have been several end of year school holidays which have caused around 2k+ cases in most of the aras of spain.
So whilst menorca might be lower than the uk, it's being a big problem for spain atm hence I can understand why uk wants to Be cautious

We are definitely testing more here which will hide more cases in other countries, but I still think our rates would show as stupidly high even if we masked the real numbers more.