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ECV new guidelines or possible new guidelines

10 replies

Backofbeyond50 · 13/07/2021 11:59

inews.co.uk/news/health/clinically-vulnerable-people-shielding-return-new-guidance-1099808

What. Could possibly go wrong with avoiding unvaccinated people.? Talk about encouraging them and us.
Also how are ECV children going to avoid the unvaccinated or indoor spaces.
Those who can't have the vaccine or to whom the vaccine won't work are definitely being thrown to the wolves.

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FourTeaFallOut · 13/07/2021 12:03

I'd have to live like the woman in the attic to avoid my unvaccinated dc Grin

It's just another impossible arse covering exercise and another opportunity to be othered by the rest of the population for not living to the impossible rules and having the temerity to rob them of their hospital beds Hmm

Kazzyhoward · 13/07/2021 12:06

So what's the alternative?

FourTeaFallOut · 13/07/2021 12:09

To living in the attic?

To accept that I've leveraged my chances as best I can with a vaccine, get on with things and cross my fingers.

For other cev people, afford those who wish to the opportunity to shield by offering legal employment protections and financial support until this next wave passes.

OrganTransplant123 · 13/07/2021 12:31

The guidelines are just dreadful. Avoid unvaccinated people, that’s hard when you live with unvaccinated people (Dcs).

One of the problems in this pandemic has always been the perception that ECV people are moribund, elderly or terminally ill. We live amongst you! We have children, and jobs and cannot shield ourselves from society where covid is now being allowed to run riot.

PrincessNutNuts · 13/07/2021 12:39

The best way to achieve the government's stated goal of getting a good size wave of covid hospitalisations and deaths out of the way in summertime rather than during the inevitable winter NHS crisis is not to protect the CEV.

People who died in the summer don't fill up ICUs in winter.

But of course the CEV are not the only ones the government plan to put in hospital this summer. They're just the lowest hanging fruit.

Mickarooni · 13/07/2021 13:39

@Kazzyhoward

So what's the alternative?
@Kazzyhoward
  • Financial support or redeployment for immune compromised CEV people in high risk jobs such as; secondary schools. This isn’t a huge number of people, so it’s not completely unviable. Many CEV people will have a normal vaccine response.
  • Vaccines for CEV children.
  • Vaccines for children who live with a CEV person.
  • Support for families home educating (against their preference) children who are CEV or live with someone CEV.
FourTeaFallOut · 13/07/2021 13:42

I wish you would have a think about how you attempt to utilise the cev and CV as a vehicle to further your dramatic narrative nutsnuts.

The cev and the cv form a healthy majority of those exact same people who require hospitalisation over the winter months. We could well do without another covid peak at the exact same time that, as a population, we are more likely to need more medical assistance.

So, while I don't think that the government has planned this unlocking and inevitable wave of cases - with far fewer hospitalisations and deaths thanks to vaccine - to benefit the medically vulnerable it certainly is in our benefit if the NHS isn't keeling over at winter.

ineedaholidaynow · 13/07/2021 13:44

It would be nice if CEV children could have remote school provision if they want it. Feel as if they are being thrown under the bus

FourTeaFallOut · 13/07/2021 13:47

@ineedaholidaynow

It would be nice if CEV children could have remote school provision if they want it. Feel as if they are being thrown under the bus
Yes, I've thought this all along. It seems like the bare minimum we could offer these kids.
PastMyBestBeforeDate · 13/07/2021 13:54

How about not fining parents for non attendance of a child at school where the child or a household member is CEV and rates are high?

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