Have you had covid twice?

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I had covid in January, one vaccine and think I have delta now - all the symptoms, in my kids school and waiting on PCR. Back in beginning of the year, they were saying that it was very rare to get covid twice. Appreciate mutations and variants, but just curious how many have had it twice?

I work in hospital and I know plenty of people who have had it twice and some three times. Also have seriously ill patients with their 2nd infection.

@LilyPond2

We have a government that is pursuing a herd immunity strategy in relation to a virus that can infect the same person multiple times. A truly horrendous state of affairs, with unvaccinated children at the sharp end of the policy.

This.

100% this.

Their herd immunity policy clearly DOESN'T FUCKING WORK. We have real world evidence it won't, it doesn't, from other countries too (e.g. Manaus Brazil).

All they're doing is creating a breeding ground for new variants and doing so in a partially vaccinated population is suicide.

Our economy contracted but the economies of those who suppressed the virus have grown.

I think it's disaster economics by the 1% - they don't see the mass of the population as human and we (and our children) are expendable. It's just a get rich quick scheme, they'll bleed the UK dry, cause massive death and disability and then bugger off elsewhere. As long as they get rich, they don't care what happens to the rest economically or in terms of health.

They have played a blinder in persuading a lot of people that the economy and health are somehow opposed to each other when actually - in a pandemic - the same policies benefit both.

The only mitigations that have had investment are those which enable some form of transfer of money from taxpayers to the 1% (vaccines, tests, test and trace consultants, dodgy PPE contracts). Really basic stuff like ventilation gets no notice or effort at all because it doesn't make them money.

The issue isn't whether people get it more than once. Its whether it is as severe on subsequent infections. If it declines significantly in severity it isn't so much of a problem and its following the pattern of infectious respiratory diseases as you would perhaps expect.

But we don't know whether this is true. There's also evidence covid can cause organ damage (my Uncle is now awaiting an operation 1 year after he caught covid because one of his essential organs has been damaged by it), and some think it can linger in the body (like chicken pox).

It's a bit of a massive fucking human experiment to just allow massive infection in all kids and younger adults - with no attempt at all to mitigate infections - on a 'maybe this will happen'.

Maybe it won't be less severe each time (not all viruses are). Maybe we'll end up with a whole generation that is disabled while all the countries who suppressed the virus have healthy children.

Also many scientists and doctors are now saying we shouldn't consider covid a respiratory virus, but a vascular one.

www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2021/may/researchers-conclude-covid-19-is-a-vascular-disease-not-respiratory.html

So all the comparisons about 'what other respiratory diseases do' are frankly useless.

Bit of a detour, sorry. Report on BBC News earlier of an hospitalised lady (admitted for something else) testing positive for the original C19 infection and the delta variant so seems anything may be possible.

Thanks all! Test back and it's negative. I am going to test again in a couple of days and stay home, just in case. Thanks for all the info - I too am deeply concerned by how we are going about this all. I just hope the scientist keep going until there is a silver bullet, however unlikely that is, as the reality is frankly terrifying.

I think DH has had it three times. He tested positive at the end of March 2020, tested positive again in I think January this year (possibly February - it's all a bit blurry), and we've all just had it again a fortnight ago. He's in the process of convincing himself that the middle one was a false positive - it was rife at his work and he thinks he somehow contaminated the swab. None of the rest of us had any symptoms the second time, and we did absolutely nothing to try and distance from him in the house. Very mild, atypical symptoms the first time (I think we might be imagining it retrospectively!) We fucking definitely all had it the third time. So definitely twice - not sure about the third one!

@SpringheelJack

I think DH has had it three times. He tested positive at the end of March 2020, tested positive again in I think January this year (possibly February - it's all a bit blurry), and we've all just had it again a fortnight ago. He's in the process of convincing himself that the middle one was a false positive - it was rife at his work and he thinks he somehow contaminated the swab. None of the rest of us had any symptoms the second time, and we did absolutely nothing to try and distance from him in the house. Very mild, atypical symptoms the first time (I think we might be imagining it retrospectively!) We fucking definitely all had it the third time. So definitely twice - not sure about the third one!

Apparently there's a thing where some people just test positive for a really long time. Worth investigating.

Apparently there's a thing where some people just test positive for a really long time.
It would be 10/11 months between the first two though. That's pretty weirdly long for 'fragments' of a previous infection. Loads of people at his work had it that second time - which makes infection seem likely, but also maybe a contaminated swab more likely? I really don't know - I'm on the fence!

Hi OP. I had it back in October and have had one jab so far. Had a horrific cold (caught from DC) last week but different symptoms to covid - eg stuffy nose - and tested negative. I started to think that colds get us worse after having covid as I usually can shake colds off very quickly.

My friend tested positive last year, completely asymptomatic. She's just getting over another bout but she's been poorly this time, despite being double vaccinated. I can only think that delta hits you differently.

Which countries have suppressed it? And how?

Which countries have suppressed it? And how?
From memory, I think Taiwan and Singapore did this. Harsh lockdowns at the beginning - much quicker than we did it, lockdown with fairly low cases but once they knew it was there and spreading. They had proper functioning test and trace - i.e. they'd test people, which we didn't even try back in early 2020, and they had a system of contact tracing that actually identified all relevant contacts and notified them. They had proper enforcement of lockdown and of isolation for those people who had to do it. Quarantine for EVERYONE coming into the country - enforced, not 'advised' and no exceptions. And people did what they were told. And they were mostly back to normal in a few months, with quarantine and isolation for any cases (there weren't many).

This is based on a couple of articles I read towards the end of last year, so I'm far from expert - but that was the gist of it.

@Isthisouting I definitely seem to get colds worse after Covid.

@isthisouting sounds very similar to me. Horrendous cold so assumed had to be Delta, especially with quite a few cases around me. Although might do another test, just in case.

I know all countries are dealing with covid, but given so recently we were talking about no restrictions amidst rising hospital admissions. I appreciate everyone is fatigued but I think everyone thought we would at least be looking at masks indoors. But anyway, could all change tomorrow.

@SpringheelJack I have a friend who lives in South Korea, and they quickly put together a track and trace which was ridiculously accurate. Although vaccinations seem not to be happening...

I currently have covid and its my second time. First time was January.

I had symptoms day 1 and 2 .months day 3 and starting to feel fine once again.

**I had symptoms day 1 and 2 ...on day 3 now and starting to feel fine once again.