Make Self isolating changes on the 19th July not 16th August?

[Tatapie]

July 19th is hardly Freedom Day if you've still got to isolate if in close contact with a positive case!
Plus cases are rising and will continue to do so with the easing of restrictions.
Why are we waiting for August 16th? AIBU to want these changes brought in on the same day as the others?

Current death rate figures aren't predicting a 'Summer of Death'.

What the figures are predicting is a Summer of 'loads of people being off work with covid'.

BBC reporting Whitehall say this delay will reduce the peak of the third wave

I still don't get the government's thinking. Why don't we keep face masks until August 16th?? That wouldn't affect businesses reopening but Businesses are going to be crippled by lots of staff self isolating.

Thanks for the link noble Am just off to read it.

16th August is 2 months after the government allowed everyone over the age of 18 (announced 18th June) to be vaccinated. Therefore by reducing the time before the second to 8 weeks, every adult will have been "able" to have had 2 vaccinations by that point.
(Appreciate that might not be the case in some areas).
That along with removing the requirement from under 18's means that those who are required to isolate still are doing so "because of their own (in)actions!"

@LittleOwl153

16th August is 2 months after the government allowed everyone over the age of 18 (announced 18th June) to be vaccinated. Therefore by reducing the time before the second to 8 weeks, every adult will have been "able" to have had 2 vaccinations by that point. (Appreciate that might not be the case in some areas). That along with removing the requirement from under 18's means that those who are required to isolate still are doing so "because of their own (in)actions!"

Ah yes, thank you. More gov nonsense though - by their own rules it should be 10 weeks later!

The Guardian is currently predicting 10 million self-isolating by 16 August, which is unfeasible as a country.

We can't book anything because everything comes with a risk of self-isolation even though we are all fully vaccinated.

This is affecting the DC's summer jobs and work experience. Everything is getting cancelled even though they are vaccinated. how are they supposed to get into university without anything to put on their CV or application when everything has been cancelled since march 2020 and now that things are reopen, the DC spend all their time in self-isolation (and for the school self-isolations, they are not even close contacts so the isolation isn't even legal according to NHS track and trace).

So yes, Javid urgently needs to change the date back to 19 July.

And I do know that fully vaccinated does not mean you cannot transmit the virus, but it does substantially reduce the risk to a very low level due to the reduction in the chance of contracting the virus in the first place and on top of that another reduction in the chance of transmitting.
That is statistics and science for you.

and for the school self-isolations, they are not even close contacts so the isolation isn't even legal according to NHS track and trace

This is bollocks.

More time to double vaccinate people. (Bonus less us/them, vaccinated/ unvaccinated divide based on age/ opportunity to access the vaccine)
More incentive for people to be double vaccinated.
Let this "wave" plateau out first, assisted by holidays in education settings.

As annoying as isolations are (putting it mildly for people where they are a major logistical nightmare) there are some logical benefits to a slight delay, and the childcare aspect from school bubble isolations will be less of a numbers issue in July-Aug.

@Tatapie

BBC reporting Whitehall say this delay will reduce the peak of the third wave

I still don't get the government's thinking. Why don't we keep face masks until August 16th?? That wouldn't affect businesses reopening but Businesses are going to be crippled by lots of staff self isolating.

Exactly! That really doesn't make sense 😞 we live a relatively normal life now, my 2 year old little girl is happy at her nursery, I'm worried that by ditching all the SD rules the virus will run wild and there'll be much more risk of the nursery closing. It is so stupid really it's beyond me 😞

The two dates are at odds with each other. It risks the country grinding to a holt through self isolation. My team in my public sector role are having to deal with more absences through isolation than ever before and we are a public facing, home visits etc, no ppe and had no one off ill in with covid in any waves.
We're having to go back to contingency planning for home visits etc due to risk of a whole double jabbed team being wiped out!