So Confused; Irish cases- why there are more cases 4.7.21 than this time last year

[ThePearlOfDumbarton]

562 new cases ystrdy 4/7/2021 on the gov.ie covid stats site.
But there have been 4,369,136 doses of vaccine administered. With nearly 2m fully vaccinated.

About two months ago cases were 400 approx and now with more people vaccinated, cases are going up?

Who's left to get it?
This time last year there were fewer cases werent there?
So when nobody was vaccinated and far fewer people had had it, there were fewer cases?

We were all relaxing this time last year.

The Delta variant is more contagious and people are less on their guard than they were last summer.

stats here

I'm just so confused about this. I know they talk about waves and we must be in another wave right now and maybe we weren't last July.

@IndigoC

The Delta variant is more contagious and people are less on their guard than they were last summer.

Yes, I guess that must explain it at least partially, definitely less fear than this time last year.

There were 11 cases on the 4th July 2020

If its anything like the UK, it'll be the result of mass testing.

More testing definitely. We opened up in May this year so third wave now. Last year it was much later. I think July? So cases were very low when we reopened and started to pick up in Autumn (we pushed the second wave in to autumn/ winter which was a huge mistake I think).

It’s better this is happening now and not September. I think we’ve learnt now that lockdown then leads to a surge in cases when you open up so it’s a case of choosing when you want that to be.

Plus Delta is more transmissible. Fortunately deaths don’t appear to be increasing . So vaccines are helping to prevent serious illness and death on the whole.

I’m pretty sure lockdown ended (in terms of household mixing) on July 9th ish last year so of course rates were low on the 4th!

The vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it, you just don’t get it as severe

@Suranjeep

If its anything like the UK, it'll be the result of mass testing.

UK has testing increasing by about 6-10%

Cases increasing 50-60%

It's a real increase, not an artefact of testing.

Ireland and UK have such close and extensive contacts that I'd be more surprised if their rise was anything other than similar

How many waves can there be?

I think Ireland is also opening back up on the 19th.

wow, more and more people vaccinated and yet the cases are increasing 1,173 cases yesterday

Is the vaccination actually not that effective but they do not want to admit that??

Schools are off and have been for 6 weeks. Really confused.

Vaccines are not enough to prevent waves of the delta variant because delta is so contagious. Plus people under 18 aren't vaccinated. Behavioural interventions are still needed.

Because delta

Gosh wasn’t the the longest harshest lockdown in the western world totally worth it?

Also I think young are thoroughly sick of restrictions and not paying any attention to them now. They’re being told not to mix indoors, whereas the vaccinated can. I can understand their frustration.

@TheKeatingFive

Also I think young are thoroughly sick of restrictions and not paying any attention to them now. They’re being told not to mix indoors, whereas the vaccinated can. I can understand their frustration.

I don’t blame them at all. Especially now that they’re not allowed to eat indoors unless they get the vaccine - fine for them to work unvaccinated in the hospitality industry though

fine for them to work unvaccinated in the hospitality industry though

I know, it’s appalling.

The government couldn’t give a flying about them though. They keep making that clear. The next election will be very interesting.

Did those Romanian vaccines show up does anyone know? That story went awfully quiet.

The latest news as of 6pm on Friday 13 August
1,978 cases confirmed:
1,978 additional cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed
221 COVID-19 patients are in hospital, with 43 of those patients in intensive care (ICU)

And yet, 80% of adults fully vaccinated and 90% partially vaccinated.
Kids aren't even at school.

I am confused. WHO is left to get covid at this point?

Does the vaccine not actually work??

Vaccines are given to stop you getting seriously ill and needing hospital admittance. This does seem to be the case for most double jabbed people. Vaccines do not stop you getting the virus.

@LitPearl

The latest news as of 6pm on Friday 13 August 1,978 cases confirmed: 1,978 additional cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed 221 COVID-19 patients are in hospital, with 43 of those patients in intensive care (ICU)

And yet, 80% of adults fully vaccinated and 90% partially vaccinated.
Kids aren't even at school.

I am confused. WHO is left to get covid at this point?

Does the vaccine not actually work??

Just imagine what those figures would be like without mass vaccination.

To see the difference vaccines make look up two dats with a similar number of cases and work out the relevant hospitalisation figures for those dates roughly. Ie a week approx after the date.
Vaccines affect transmission only slightly. What they mainly do is stop serious illness or death.

I’m not sure why you are confused. Currently 10% of NI has had a positive case - add in those who don’t know and I can’t imagine that higher but let’s be very optimistic and say 50%

That is still half of the population (and it’s going to be much more) who hasn’t had it and vaccines stop serious illness and hospitalisation add in the Delta variant and it makes sense

Is it not clear why it's confusing @quartz2208 ?

The number of cases in Ireland (ROI) just keeps rising, while the number of people vaccinated is 80-90% and the children aren't even in school!

The vaccinations have been touted as being between 50-95% effective.

Can they be anywhere near to that effective given how many new cases there are every day.

@TheKeatingFive

Because delta

Gosh wasn’t the the longest harshest lockdown in the western world totally worth it?

My favourite post today!😀🙌🏻 and so right!

This is a good explanation