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If you're mask exempt, will you continue to wear a lanyard after the 19th?

62 replies

TheVampiresWife · 05/07/2021 07:54

I was going to do away with mine but unfortunately it looks as if those who don't wish to wear masks are going to be routinely labelled as selfish, idiotic 'anti maskers' and exempt people will be (as usual) lumped in with this. I'm not sure I fancy the stress/judgement of going out without one, even though lanyards are not mandatory now and certainly won't be after the 19th! Wearing one hasn't stopped the judgement from others so far but I feel as if it'll get worse, not better, post-19th.

I genuinely thought that the end of the mask mandate, when it came, would also mean the end of the division and vitriol surrounding masks. How naive I was!

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TheVampiresWife · 05/07/2021 10:48

@endlesscraziness

I don't get the argument of Sunflower vs a mask exempt lanyard. Anyone can buy mask exempt lanyards. I eye-rolled a lot at a young couple wearing them; chance of both being genuinely exempt are virtually zero.
Again, sigh.

This isn't (yet another) thread about who's genuinely exempt and who isn't.

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luckylavender · 05/07/2021 10:59

OP - in the nicest possible way, you're obsessed.

TheVampiresWife · 05/07/2021 11:01

@luckylavender

OP - in the nicest possible way, you're obsessed.
Because I asked whether exempt people would be abandoning lanyards? Huh?
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luckylavender · 05/07/2021 11:09

Because you're constantly obsessing about bloody masks.

Toesies · 05/07/2021 11:15

The discrimination exempt people have faced is also staggering. I don't understand why disabled people/those with health conditions are vilified and abused, no. There's absolutely no justification for it. What 'reasons' could there possibly be?

I cant imagine you're unaware of them as you've heard them repeatedly in them in the repetitive mask threads you've been in.

TheVampiresWife · 05/07/2021 11:16

@luckylavender yes, masks are being talked about a lot lately. There are several active threads about them, some by posters who have talked about masks a lot before. Have you told them 'nicely' that they're obsessed, too?

This was a question for people who are exempt, regarding lanyards. If you've nothing helpful to add, why comment?

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TheVampiresWife · 05/07/2021 11:17

@Toesies there's never a justifiable reason to abuse people.

If you've nothing helpful to add, perhaps you'd like to stop derailing?

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Confuzzlediddled · 05/07/2021 11:18

OP if you have been told your seizures are down to your TNG you have been misdiagnosed - TNG doesn't cause seizures, it is a pain syndrome ( I am also a TNG sufferer) you should ask for further investigations into your symptoms.

With regards to the lanyard, my son is autistic and used a sunflower lanyard well before the pandemic to reflect his additional needs on the rare time he is alone ( the bus to college) and the original meaning has been lost due to it being misappropriated, i welcome the possibility that it may return.

one final note, i was waiting outside asda while my daughter collected a parcel, i had a full view of the entrance and as i was bored i began counting, 83 people entered the store, of which 55 weren't wearing a mask - there is no way 55% of the population are mask exempt - your anger should be placed at the feet of the mask deniers.

Bunnyfuller · 05/07/2021 11:19

Oh well, my cardiologist must be wrong then!

Orf1abc · 05/07/2021 11:21

your anger should be placed at the feet of the mask deniers

You can be angry at both the mask deniers and those who think they have a right to police it. We can also be very angry at the government for not setting up a proper exemption scheme, and for generally ignoring disabled people throughout the pandemic.

badgerswitharms · 05/07/2021 11:23

@Bunnyfuller

Oh well, my cardiologist must be wrong then!
I assume your cardiologist means if you felt you couldn't wear one because it affects your breathing due to your condition would give you an exemption. If your cardiologist is actually telling you that you shouldn't wear one you'd be a bit silly to wear a mask surely?
Orf1abc · 05/07/2021 11:24

@Bunnyfuller As your cardiologist is a medical specialist, it's highly likely that he doesn't understand the legal test that defines if someone is exempt or not. You might want to look up the differences between the medical and social models of disability. This test is based on the latter.

TheVampiresWife · 05/07/2021 11:25

@Confuzzlediddled

OP if you have been told your seizures are down to your TNG you have been misdiagnosed - TNG doesn't cause seizures, it is a pain syndrome ( I am also a TNG sufferer) you should ask for further investigations into your symptoms.

With regards to the lanyard, my son is autistic and used a sunflower lanyard well before the pandemic to reflect his additional needs on the rare time he is alone ( the bus to college) and the original meaning has been lost due to it being misappropriated, i welcome the possibility that it may return.

one final note, i was waiting outside asda while my daughter collected a parcel, i had a full view of the entrance and as i was bored i began counting, 83 people entered the store, of which 55 weren't wearing a mask - there is no way 55% of the population are mask exempt - your anger should be placed at the feet of the mask deniers.

I'm currently being investigated for MS also.

My neurologist refers to my attacks as seizures, so that's where the terminology comes from.

This isn't meant to be a thread about the ins and outs of exemption - unfortunately some posters have made comments about this and it seems to have turned into one.

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Confuzzlediddled · 05/07/2021 11:27

@Orf1abc

I completely agree the set up of the mask legislation, and expemptions, has like most other things (with the exception of the vaccine roll out) has been a complete and utter shambles with the most vulnerable and disabled people being betrayed in every way.

Canigooutyet · 05/07/2021 11:51

No as I didn't start wearing one. Didn't seem right to appropriate something that wasn't designed for me. I can ask for assistance when needed.

People can ask, they aren't getting answers back. If I do bother to engage because I'm in a queue of whatever, I ask them something personal. People really freak out for some reason when you ask the none medical question of when did you last have sex. So funny when they retort with how rude to ask something as personal.

People can assume whatever they want. Just like the poster assumes the two young people are faking because of their age. Maybe I'm making an ass out of myself as I would assume they might be lip reading.

I cannot wear one, those pesky medical people agree that I really shouldn't wear one. That's it. I generally try and follow medical advice that is given to me by the professional I see. It's not given for bants.

Skinnytailedsquirrel · 05/07/2021 12:17

Those people who are claiming exemption...is there any reason for not wearing a face shield? I know they are not as effective at stopping transmission of any virus but it does help if you look like you are being respectful of other people.

TheVampiresWife · 05/07/2021 12:24

@Skinnytailedsquirrel

Those people who are claiming exemption...is there any reason for not wearing a face shield? I know they are not as effective at stopping transmission of any virus but it does help if you look like you are being respectful of other people.
For some people, yes. Some people with TN for example cannot tolerate any touch to the face/head/forehead. Some people with autism/PTSD may find them unwearable also.

The government have advised that visors not be worn alone due to their lack of efficiency. I try to be respectful of others by observing SD - far more effective than an open-on-all-sides visor anyway!

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x2boys · 05/07/2021 12:28

Does anyone really care anymore if others wear a mask? I wear one but I wouldn't dream of challenging others, my eleven year old has severe autism and learning disabilities, he has no idea we are even in a pandemic let alone what masks are for, everytime I try one on him he just pulls it off, we have never been challenged🤷‍♀️

Toesies · 05/07/2021 12:31

[quote TheVampiresWife]@Toesies there's never a justifiable reason to abuse people.

If you've nothing helpful to add, perhaps you'd like to stop derailing?[/quote]

You don't like questions, so you call it a derail? Pleasant. I did start kindly saying you might be in need of a break from MN - I was genuine in that.

TheVampiresWife · 05/07/2021 12:42

@Toesies it's definitely a derail when posters who have nothing constructive to add come onto a thread to tell the OP to take a break from MN. And to start yet another debate about how genuine or not mask exempt people are, or why they should 'understand' why they get abuse.

Telling someone whose opinions you don't agree with, however 'kindly', that they need a break from MN is very strange, incidentally. As I've said - if you don't like what I post, just ignore it Smile

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Toesies · 05/07/2021 13:02

[quote TheVampiresWife]@Toesies it's definitely a derail when posters who have nothing constructive to add come onto a thread to tell the OP to take a break from MN. And to start yet another debate about how genuine or not mask exempt people are, or why they should 'understand' why they get abuse.

Telling someone whose opinions you don't agree with, however 'kindly', that they need a break from MN is very strange, incidentally. As I've said - if you don't like what I post, just ignore it Smile[/quote]

All right. Carry on posting all day. I wasn't being snarky although you seem determined to think so.

motogogo · 05/07/2021 13:07

We will be ditching our masks, I really wouldn't worry - plenty of normal law abiding people won't be masking, no point as we are double vaxxed and none of the youngsters mask around their friends.

motogogo · 05/07/2021 13:09

@Skinnytailedsquirrel

Probably, but around these parts it's 50% of all 16-30 year olds on buses!

motogogo · 05/07/2021 13:11

@gamerchick

My dd is autistic, she loves her mask and never plans on stopping wearing it, she likes hiding! She also wears headphones in public places

LittleMissSneezy · 05/07/2021 13:13

@TheVampiresWife I think a lot of people will ditch their masks. Most people I know are only wearing them because they have to.

I've never liked it and felt it did impede my breathing (I'm asthmatic) and I know a gazillion surveys were done to say it didn't, but I always felt like it did. I also got face eczema from them!

I'm sorry if you got abused but I suspect once things start getting eased, it will get better all round. People who want to carry on wearing masks are free to do so!