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Teen covid vaccination

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Trixiebell06 · 04/07/2021 10:23

Hi my child is 15 & I’ve been speaking to friends that when we are invited would we get our kids vaccinated , I’m still unsure
Would appreciate your thoughts please ?

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Wellbythebloodyhell · 04/07/2021 13:55

As a Mum of 2 boys 12 and 14 the reports of heart inflammation in young males worries me, more so than the prospect of covid at the moment so my initial thoughts are no at this moment in time but I'll never say never . I really hope there isn't the social pressure/coercion on children that has been inflicted on adults.

BluebellsGreenbells · 04/07/2021 13:58

Those vaccinated are no longer being contact traced - they will no longer be in isolation from school.

The unvaccinated will be sent home to isolate.

They can also travel and not quarantine or be tested on return.

BluebellsGreenbells · 04/07/2021 13:59

Meant to add - if successful then you have a choice.

bennyjet · 04/07/2021 14:00

16 and 19 all done with Pfizer no side effects

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 04/07/2021 14:01

I’m not in the UK. Mine have all had Pfizer with no issues. They’re not personally at risk but they want to help achieve herd immunity. A large proportion of over 12s have had it here too. Schools and universities are planning to be fully in person with no restrictions from August onwards as a result.

Also our cases have dropped significantly locally despite the Delta variant having been in circulation for a couple of months now, and despite us having fully reopened and stopped wearing masks - vaccinating as many as possible has contributed hugely towards this.

LoathingAndFear · 04/07/2021 14:01

Yes, I definitely want my teenagers vaccinated.

It has been approved as safe for them by independent experts (the best in the country).

If next academic year is the same as this, my older teen's life chances will be severely damaged, not to mention their actual life (due to mental health issues).

If you don't want your teen vaccinated, fair enough, just don't ruin it for every one else with your FOMO.

CherryPlumCrow · 04/07/2021 14:03

Of course not.
It's therefore good that so far, none have

Erm the 13 year old boy from Michigan who died of an enlarged heart 3 days after his jab? There are (or certainly will be) many more.
But the powers that be will put it down to coincidence......and parents who believe what they're told will be queuing up to get their healthy children jabbed with an experimental vaccine Hmm

tigger1001 · 04/07/2021 14:05

@Trixiebell06

Tbh I think at some stage we will be pushed by schools to get our kids vaccinated I’ve been vaccinated & I’m not scare mongering by no means but a few younger women that I know had their jabs & their periods went erratic one of which was regular & her periods stopped for a couple of months it could be pure coincidence
Schools can recommend vaccination but not push it. I would be pretty disgusted if schools did push it and would be pretty vocal about it. Informed consent is not obtained by schools pushing something into their pupils.
tigger1001 · 04/07/2021 14:11

@BluebellsGreenbells

Those vaccinated are no longer being contact traced - they will no longer be in isolation from school.

The unvaccinated will be sent home to isolate.

They can also travel and not quarantine or be tested on return.

Where I am contact tracing is a joke and is failing very quickly. Thousands of contacts with a positive case are not being contacted, and it's nothing to do with their vaccination status.

Vaccinated people, while at a lesser risk of transmitting the virus can still transmit it.

School children here are not yet routinely vaccinated so self isolation for them is not dependent on vaccine status. It is being discussed (ie leaked to the press, and history pretty much suggests that is what will happen) that the school bubble won't be in place in the new school year, long before kids will have had a chance of getting a vaccine, generally.

BluebellsGreenbells · 04/07/2021 14:18

Thousands of contacts with a positive case are not being contacted, and it's nothing to do with their vaccination status.

I think you missed the point.
Schools are currently closing bubbles and sending whole year groups home. Vaccinated children can stay in school.

Some schools have closed multiple times - anything that keep children in school will help surely?

Wellbythebloodyhell · 04/07/2021 14:22

Saying those vaccinated dc won't need to isolate but the unvaccinated will is a form of coercion . We don't discriminate against those children who have or don't have the flu vac this shouldn't be any different

cherin · 04/07/2021 14:24

The way I see it: some adults have decided that they have enough and are behaving like idiots.

Scenes on the street last night don’t need explanation. It was idiotic, and Wembley next week will be even more idiotic.

The generation which is suffering more is children and teens, whose education is disrupted and whose opportunities (in sports, work experience, summer camps, stays with grandparents, travel, etc) are severely limited.
So - my eldest (17) would really want to have a vaccine, so he feels protected regardless of the behaviour of idiots around him.
Youngest would not have it anyway, because

CherryPlumCrow · 04/07/2021 14:27

@Wellbythebloodyhell

Saying those vaccinated dc won't need to isolate but the unvaccinated will is a form of coercion . We don't discriminate against those children who have or don't have the flu vac this shouldn't be any different
Absolutely. Plus medical records are strictly private in this country so unethical to differentiate between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
Wellbythebloodyhell · 04/07/2021 14:32

Do we all dc in school who haven't had their MMR or treat them any different to those children who have? I've heard some US schools refused unvaccinated kids not sure if this happens in the UK?

Wellbythebloodyhell · 04/07/2021 14:33

*allow not all

tigger1001 · 04/07/2021 14:38

@BluebellsGreenbells

Thousands of contacts with a positive case are not being contacted, and it's nothing to do with their vaccination status.

I think you missed the point.
Schools are currently closing bubbles and sending whole year groups home. Vaccinated children can stay in school.

Some schools have closed multiple times - anything that keep children in school will help surely?

Given vaccination of children generally isn't happening yet in the uk I don't see how vaccinated children are not having to self isolate. Adults who are double vaccinated here are still required to self isolate if contacted.

How does the school know who is vaccinated and who isn't?

BluebellsGreenbells · 04/07/2021 14:39

Saying those vaccinated dc won't need to isolate but the unvaccinated will is a form of coercion

Why? One is being protected via vaccine the other is being protect by isolation.

lop124 · 04/07/2021 14:40

We've had both vaccinations but I'm on the fence about my teenagers having them. Their risk of them dying or being seriously ill from covid is minuscule so the vaccine has a different risk/reward balance for them. Plus the greater good point is fairly well covered by adults having had their own vaccinations. However, I can see the benefit of less disruption to their schooling.

tigger1001 · 04/07/2021 14:40

@Wellbythebloodyhell

Do we all dc in school who haven't had their MMR or treat them any different to those children who have? I've heard some US schools refused unvaccinated kids not sure if this happens in the UK?
No, vaccination status isn't a requirement in uk schools.
cherin · 04/07/2021 14:55

It is in plenty of other countries, both in Europe and further afield.
Unless things have changed recently, I believe it’s also impossible to immigrate to the USA without a long list of vaccinations; if you don’t have them, they do it upon arrival, like it or not.
I don’t know about schools, but in mainstream state schools I assume they’d want proof of vaccination. Community schools or religious schools would have their own way.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 04/07/2021 15:01

@cherin

It is in plenty of other countries, both in Europe and further afield. Unless things have changed recently, I believe it’s also impossible to immigrate to the USA without a long list of vaccinations; if you don’t have them, they do it upon arrival, like it or not. I don’t know about schools, but in mainstream state schools I assume they’d want proof of vaccination. Community schools or religious schools would have their own way.
Yes I had to have various vaccinations to immigrate to the US, including MMRV (which btw also comes with a risk of myocarditis).

You don't necessarily HAVE to be vaccinated to go to state school, but if there is an outbreak eg of chickenpox then any unvaccinated students have to stay home until 2 weeks after the last case has cleared up.

Similarly DDs' universities are not currently requiring the Covid vaccination, but if you don't have it then you'll be expected to wear a mask, test for Covid several times a week, and isolate if exposed.

The vast majority of students are choosing to be vaccinated.

CantGetNoSleep73 · 04/07/2021 16:16

@BluebellsGreenbells and that is exactly what is wrong with all this! It's bloody coercion
Unless your child is CEV then I really see why anyone would voluntarily do this with their child/children
Even the bloody blurb with the vaccine invite said for over 65 years of age or with following conditions.
Why are you so willing for follow it? It's not following any science whatsoever

For a virus with a 99.97% survival rate and where for "most it will be mild" as stated by Chris witty. What exactly are you trying to achieve? Since when did children have to protect adults??? Ffs

CantGetNoSleep73 · 04/07/2021 16:18

And all I can see on threads like this is, well it's not been proved the heart issues, the irregular bleeding with periods etc it's just a blip and as long as it's not me then it's fine.

Why is this any different to anyone dying or becoming v ill from covid?

It seems no fucks given if it's vaccine related 🤬

blahblahblah321 · 04/07/2021 16:19

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Wellbythebloodyhell · 04/07/2021 16:21

@BluebellsGreenbells

Saying those vaccinated dc won't need to isolate but the unvaccinated will is a form of coercion

Why? One is being protected via vaccine the other is being protect by isolation.

Because it will force parents to vaccinate when they don't want too under the pretext of getting normality back when in reality there's very little risk dc need protecting from in terms of covid