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Does anyone know how early CEV people can get a booster dose?

42 replies

Lagirl20 · 03/07/2021 14:52

Does anyone have any intel on how early CEV people can get a booster dose?
Do you think mass vaccination centres will continue to be used?
I’m CEV and in my 30s. Will I be likely to get it in September - or will I be waiting months?

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PastMyBestBeforeDate · 03/07/2021 14:58

If I'm having one it needs to be finely timed to fit in with my meds. So it's going to be fun sorting that out.

Wellbythebloodyhell · 03/07/2021 14:58

I would assume it would follow the same rollout as the original priority list

Lagirl20 · 03/07/2021 15:04

Yes from what I’ve read it will follow the same priority list. I’m assuming it’ll be faster this time around though?

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Bagelsandbrie · 03/07/2021 15:09

I’m CEV and I’m pretty confident we will be in the first lot again - so September.

Lagirl20 · 03/07/2021 15:17

September would be amazing. Fingers crossed!

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everythingthelighttouches · 03/07/2021 15:34

There’s a booster trial called cov-boost. Don’t know if you’d be eligible?

www.covboost.org.uk/participate

Wellbythebloodyhell · 03/07/2021 15:54

@Lagirl20

Yes from what I’ve read it will follow the same priority list. I’m assuming it’ll be faster this time around though?
Why would it be faster? There's still the same amount of people to vaccinate
Itsprobablynotcominghome · 03/07/2021 15:58

Probably before half the world has one dose I guess.

Lagirl20 · 03/07/2021 16:00

Might be faster because the NHS are now well used to dishing out doses - via pharmacies, mass vaccination centres, pop up clinics, etc - none of that was in place in early Jan

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PastMyBestBeforeDate · 03/07/2021 16:04

I'd be rejected by the trial on at least 2 grounds. Anyone on immune suppressants will be.

herecomesthsun · 03/07/2021 16:10

They have changed the criteria to include people who got their first vaccine in Feb.

Smile

I will consider applying today.

Wigeon · 03/07/2021 17:27

Here’s the interim advice from JCVI about the probable priority order of a booster programme:

“ Stage 1. The following persons should be offered a third dose COVID-19 booster vaccine and the annual influenza vaccine as soon as possible from September 2021:

adults aged 16 years and over who are immunosuppressed
those living in residential care homes for older adults
all adults aged 70 years or over
adults aged 16 years and over who are considered clinically extremely vulnerable
frontline health and social care workers
Stage 2. The following persons should be offered a third dose COVID-19 booster vaccine as soon as practicable after stage 1, with equal emphasis on deployment of the influenza vaccine where eligible:

all adults aged 50 years and over
adults aged 16 to 49 years who are in an influenza or COVID-19 at-risk group. (Refer to the Green Book for details of at-risk groups)
adult household contacts of immunosuppressed individuals”

“ Within each of the stages, where practicable, those with the longest interval since the second dose of their primary course of vaccination should be called first”
link here, advice issued 30 June

Wigeon · 03/07/2021 17:34

The NHS is planned to start the boosters in September, until mid December. Given JCVI is suggesting doing the groups above in the order they got the vaccine first time round (apart severely immunosupprrssed adults, who they suggest get the booster at the start of the booster programme), and CEV people were in cohort 4, I’d guess you won’t get it in September. Probably. But probably soon after.

Yes, there will still be some mass vaccs centres, along with pharmacy led and GP led sites.

nether · 03/07/2021 18:11

I hadn't seen that list - looks as if the CEV person in my household should get it in September, and the rest of us when they start group 2

Will it be the same jab you had first time round? Or given the promising work in benefits of mixing jabs, might those who got AZ first time get a Pfizer booster?

Wigeon · 03/07/2021 18:28

They’re still waiting for the outcomes of a clinical study on mixing vaccines for the booster (the COV BOOST study). So we don’t know yet whether you’ll get the same or a different vaccine.

Lagirl20 · 03/07/2021 18:28

@nether I think mixing vaccines is currently being trailed and they’ll make a decision in the next month or so. Looks like promising results from mixing though!

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Hax · 03/07/2021 18:35

I've been rejected for every trial I've tried. They want healthy people for trials.
Actually I wouldn't be rushing to get my booster as I want it to last. I had my 2nd dose in April and still have antibodies so far.

Justgettingbye · 03/07/2021 18:53

I'm in a low risk catergory and had my first last week and my second is booked end of august so would I be offered the booster as I will be having the second so late? I've never had the flu jab either (again not offered it) so I have that too?

Orchidflower1 · 04/07/2021 08:22

[quote Lagirl20]@nether I think mixing vaccines is currently being trailed and they’ll make a decision in the next month or so. Looks like promising results from mixing though![/quote]
I believe that Canada has also had very positive results with mixing vaccines. A relative there says she feels like they are encouraging the mixing. She’s only 24, no clinical vulnerabilities and has had the Pfizer then the moderna.

AureliaStars · 04/07/2021 09:07

They've already made the decision on mixing vaccines - it's possible and has already been done. PHE published guidance on it months ago.

It's September for CEV groups. So they won't be doing the flu and Covid vaccine at the same appointment which seems a little crazy.

@Justgettingbye you won't be given the flu jab on the NHS unless you are eligible for it, but you can pay to have it privately.

Motorina · 04/07/2021 09:11

I’m anticipating it will be faster as supply is greater now, particularly if they use AZ as the booster.

andadietcoke · 04/07/2021 09:15

@Hax

I've been rejected for every trial I've tried. They want healthy people for trials. Actually I wouldn't be rushing to get my booster as I want it to last. I had my 2nd dose in April and still have antibodies so far.
44% of the 15,000 people on the Novavax trial had underlying health conditions. There are trials available but it depends on your condition.
Wigeon · 04/07/2021 09:54

@AureliaStars

They've already made the decision on mixing vaccines - it's possible and has already been done. PHE published guidance on it months ago.

It's September for CEV groups. So they won't be doing the flu and Covid vaccine at the same appointment which seems a little crazy.

@Justgettingbye you won't be given the flu jab on the NHS unless you are eligible for it, but you can pay to have it privately.

@AureliaStars - no decision has been taken on whether the booster dose will be the same or different to the type you had for your 1st and 2nd doses. Perhaps you are thinking of recent press articles about early findings from the trial which looked at mixing doses for the 1st and 2nd? The readout from the one about mixing for the booster vaccine isn’t out yet.

The JVCI advice also explicitly said that the flu and Covid booster vaccines should be given at the same time, from September. This was confirmed by NHS England in their letter the next day to the local NHS about planning for doing flu plus Covid vaccines from September (here.

Wigeon · 04/07/2021 09:57

@Motorina

I’m anticipating it will be faster as supply is greater now, particularly if they use AZ as the booster.
@Motorina - the booster jab might be different to your 1st and 2nd jab. And there are likely to be more vaccine brands available from the autumn. So it’s not possible to tell if it’ll all be AZ.

The pace of the rollout is also not just dependent on supply. It’s dependent on there being sufficient NHS workforce to do it, the number of sites doing it, the willingness of patients to come forward promptly, whether patients are happy to have their flu and Covid vaccines at the same time (if they aren’t, that’s more work for the same sized NHS workforce) etc etc…

GreatBigBeautifulTommorow · 04/07/2021 10:02

@Wigeon we were talking about flu and Covid vacc deployment at work, we were specifically told we had to have not had the flu vac within 4 weeks of Covid vaccination in December when the roll out started.