Would you get a dose of Pfizer in pregnancy?

[Lagirl20]

I delayed trying to conceive in order to get the vaccine. I’ve had two doses of Pfizer. I am clinically vulnerable and likely to get extremely ill if I caught Covid-19. I was so excited to TTC in the coming months.
I’ve just read in the news that booster vaccine doses will be rolled out from September. I am wondering if I need to FURTHER delay TTC. I haven’t stopped crying since I read the news and realised I might need to delay for many more months. Would you get a third dose of Pfizer while pregnant? I know it’s recommended for pregnant women and hundreds of thousands have had it... but we can’t know longer term effects yet?
I am devastated - what would you do?

@MoorGirl Are you not concerned about the effects of long covid on children or the proven scientific risk of increased stillbirth if you catch it?

In comparison to the complete lack of any data showing a negative impact on pregnancy or babies, alongside many top scientists explaining that the vaccine doesn’t cross the placenta to go anywhere near the baby anyway, It’s a no brainier for me.

@Itsprobablynotcominghome

Pfizer have only just started the trials for pregnant women

www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-commence-global-clinical-trial-evaluate

Just to pull out further....this is from Pfizer’s own literature...in that page:

“ Available data on Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine administered to pregnant women are insufficient to inform vaccine-associated risks in pregnancy”

Considering the “just had vaccine and now am hungry/going bald/my DH suddenly is a cunt” attempts to pass random shit off as causality, if just one woman gave birth to anything but a healthy baby after having the vaccine and had any reason to believe it was the vaccine, it would be all over this place like a rash.

Real world data > trials.

@hamstersarse I'm glad someone came along and said it.

New England Journal of Medicine 17th June 2021:

Many pregnant persons in the United States are receiving messenger RNA (mRNA) coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19) vaccines, but data are limited on their safety in pregnancy.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2104983

The study and editorial article is actually quite reassuring, with the rates of spontaneous abortion, pre-term birth, small gestational size etc looking consistent with those expected on the basis of published literature.

But the editorial goes on to say: Given that there was a relatively small number of completed pregnancies and that live births were typically after vaccination in the third trimester, Shimabukuro et al. acknowledge the limitations in their ability to draw conclusions about congenital anomalies and other potential rare neonatal outcomes.

It's all well and good saying "the trials started in July" but this is completely disingenuous considering pregnant women were not involved in the trial. The study linked above uses data primarily from healthcare workers vaccinated between Dec 20 and Feb 21.

3958 pregnant women enrolled in the V-safe pregnancy registry and of those, 827 had (at the time of the study) completed pregnancy. 86% of the 827 reported a live birth and they were mostly vaccinated in the third trimester.

Has any evidence emerged so far showing the vaccine is unsafe for pregnant women? No. Thankfully.

Is there enough evidence to show the vaccine is safe for pregnant women? This really is a matter of personal opinion. Even the CDC has a however.

So how posters can say "data from the states shows it to be safe" without adding that the CDC themselves say there is limited data on the safety is mind-boggling. This almost religious devotion to vaccination is just as worrying as the 5G / microchip bullshit.

It's a new vaccine with limited data. It's a new virus with slightly less limited data. It's your health, and your potential baby.

Have the vaccine or don't, tell anecdotal stories of how you and your unborn baby are fine (which is great and very reassuring), but lets not pretend these are proven to be safe when there are thousands of women, yet to complete their pregnancy, who are still currently involved in the initial attempts by V safe to gather safety data.

Informed consent needs to be at the forefront here.

@Itsprobablynotcominghome

There has actually been occurrences of this and it's incredibly worrying. A healthcare worker in the US tweeted that she'd got her vaccine (with added "I'm doing my bit to protect my baby and my patients") and a few days later sadly tweeted that she suffered a miscarriage.

While many replies were supportive and expressing sorrow for her loss, there was a worrying amount of abusive tweets and accusations. She's been repeatedly held up by hardcore anti-covid-vaxers as an example and ridiculed for her choice.

Obviously this is heartbreaking for the poor woman - I genuinely can't imagine anything worse than becoming twitter villain of the day after losing your baby. But what's also worrying is that incidents like this could lead to other women - especially those in early pregnancy - feeling hesitant about reporting adverse effects. Either because they (wrongly) blame themselves, or because they're worried others will blame them if they speak up / report.

Of the people on this thread reporting no adverse effects and healthy births, I wonder how many are enrolled in some sort of monitoring system? Because IMO that's absolutely the most important thing here, that we're gathering all evidence as soon as it emerges so more women can make informed decisions and we never see a repeat of what happened to that poor healthcare worker the next time a pandemic comes along. She was dragged over the coals because the data was, at the time, even more limited than it is now. Data on women, our menstrual cycles, pregnancies, babies, and breastfeeding needs to be gathered during the trial stages if pregnant women are going to be encouraged to take emergency use authorised vaccines in future pandemics before safety data is available.

Yes, I've had two doses, in my late second and third trimesters.
I'd definitely have it!

The vaccine breaks down quickly in the bloodstream and physically can't pass through the placenta. There's no way of it getting to the baby. They will get antibodies from you, same as any other bug you've ever had.

And third trimester covid is proven terrifying. It's really not worth risking.

I did ivf and they did tell me they don't recommend getting the vaccine for 3 months before ivf or ttc naturally they would of made me wait if I had wanted it which I didn't anyway, as they don't know the full effects and that they don't recommend it in pregnancy.