What is the point anymore

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Of all the silly rules when football fans were out partying last night,

Indeed

I think Boris is very optimistic about the 19th...
If football does indeed come home, that is!

This was fine. This didn't need the police to break it up and send everyone on their way in maximum groups of 30.

But obviously, it would be too dangerous to mix primary school bubbles so secondary school transfer days can't happen.

Silly rules easily go away when people simply stop complying with them. It's over when the people decide it is not when some idiot in a suit tells us it is.

The latest reports say that the country will need to live with Covid , we will need to accept this virus is part of life and get back to normality . If the papers are correct I think that is a step in the right direction. This about turn is sensible given the fact this country did not choose zero tolerance which was the approach in Australia, NZ, China, Singapore etc. It really shows the half way approach is not possible and makes me wonder why we had numerous lockdowns leading to increasing deaths from delayed treatment and screening, huge mental health crisis particularly for the young, destruction of education and life for the young and huge economic damage

Can't find a venue that will accommodate enough people to have a wake for my Mum yet they can all go out and celebrate a bunch of men kicking a ball around

@Wellbythebloodyhell exactly!

Pisses me off so much that this is happening and children are getting things like residential trips cancelled, transfer days etc.

Agree 100% OP. We are being treated like fools.

... but it's FOOTBALL - different rules apply!

For me, it's not the football fans celebrating, good to see people have fun, it's the double standards and hypocrisy. They delayed June 21st, but they didn't really did they, they just paid lip service to delaying June 21st. I just wish someone would tell schools that the rules don't really exist any more so kids could have sports days with their parents there, transfer days, settling in sessions, etc. Once again kids are the ones missing out.

Maybe it is s secret plot to build herd immunity among football lovers?

Completely agree.
Can't attend my dc's sports day, can't dance at a wedding, funerals still only allowed limited numbers, yet because this is football it's okay. I think this, along with Matt Hancock's shenanigans last week is making a lot of people angry.

@Wellbythebloodyhell

Silly rules easily go away when people simply stop complying with them. It's over when the people decide it is not when some idiot in a suit tells us it is.

But I have no choice but to comply with DC1 (7) back to back isolation (two days back at school in between) because of school bubbles closing. They literally won't let him on to the school premises? Or DC2 for that matter, who is also now isolating.

Not sure how we make that silly rule go away simply by ignoring? 😞

@user1493222657

Maybe it is s secret plot to build herd immunity among football lovers?

I don’t think it’s a plot as much as reality.

Without any kind of source/info, I’d speculate your average England fan is more likely to not bother being vaccinated, than not.

The pubs and fan zones are just covid-parties (chicken pox parties).

I’m delighted by it. (As long as a new variant doesn’t emerge that renders all this pointless).

@rubbishatballet I feel sorry for mums and children, it’s madness, I hope they stop bubbles having to isolate from September, it doesn’t help your situation now though x

It's tricky because if it wasn't for the fact I feel bitter about sports day, my daughter dancing in a taped square on the floor, beavers always being outside in the pissing rain etc then I'd actually be pleased to see people enjoying themselves.

It just feels so unequal at the moment though and that is hard.

There's no point.

I've not said this once during the full pandemic but, I am fucking done.

Going to Butlins soon for a lovely masked, no contact with anyone, booking a sneeze in advance holiday just to give my kids something to do. A bit of 'normality'. Fuckin joke.

I don't care that they were celebrating but I do care that the government turn a blind eye to that but are still forcing their stupid rules on the rest of us.

They should just scrap the rules and let people decide their own risk.

When we live with covid, we live with people dying
Compare that to the reaction to a vaccine death, and how appalling that is.

We are aghast at the impact on cancer treatments.
But when someone is on cancer treatment they are CEV. And we have to accept that people will die of covid once endemic, but they'll be CEV or old (and as used to be typed out blatantly earlier in the pandemic 'going to die anyway' even though that's not true)

We are totally screwed up by this.

Not because we have made huge efforts to contain a brand-new pandemic disease (just like nearly every country is doing). And are still trying to reduce the exit wave .

But because there is screwed up thinking about the value of life, and justification of casting some aside as not worth it. If the majority can get on with it, is it right to care about the 2.5 million on the precautionary post-shielding advice - they could after all be just shut away? Is it right to do that to all those who join the CEV because of new diagnosis (making cancer treatment even scarier and more lonely)

Or is it instead worth reducing the exit wave? And being ready to take measures if there ever were a resurgence in future?

This is not doom-monger, love restrictions or any other glib insult.

It's a question about who we are and who we want to be.

And whether regard for the whole of society is a sign of strength and compassion, or an inconvenience

I stopped following the rules, no mask, no testing unless any of us have symptoms, out every weekend in London with my daughter. I go into the office every day where people seem to have forgotten about Covid, thank goodness. My daughter’s school doesn’t have any cases yet, she has 2 weeks left, hopefully she’ll make it to the end of term.

@nether it must be an awful situation to be in but I’m afraid it’s going to happen whatever you and I say on here. Look at the photos in London, this was encouraged, pop up bars and large screens all over London.

I couldn't have a first school photo of my little boy this year, because of Covid (how, exactly?).

There have been no school discos, no sports days, no trips, no parents evenings in any of my children's schools.

No birthday parties, no play dates, no swimming, no after school clubs, no trips to the beach, no holidays, no even going to school for most of the year! Everything my children were looking forward to as treats and expecting as normality has been cancelled.

But sure. Football. And festivals. They're fine.

Fuck all of it. Absolutely all of it.

I have an autoimmune condition. I can't get an appointment with my consultant despite being in agony and unable to walk almost every day. I was taken off my meds in February last year due to side effects and was going to start new ones in March, but my appointment was cancelled. Since then I've had several phone appointments cancelled too. I've phoned to talk to my consultant which isn't usually an issue, but since Covid the nurse (who takes the calls) is not allowed to walk a few steps down the corridor to the consultant's office with my notes. She has to email her instead, and there's a huge backlog, so I've not heard back.

So, few steps down a corridor - risk to health, not allowed.

Drunk football fans in huge crowds - fine.