What happens to track and trace once social distancing ends?

[Katie517]

Just had this thought and wondered what others thought.

If July 19th goes ahead and social distancing regulations are removed from restaurants, gyms etc. what happens in terms of being a close contact? At the moment at the gym I would never be classed as a contact as equipment and class spaces are all 2m apart, the same with tables in restaurants, but if social distancing goes but track and trace remains surely we will have loads more people isolating as “close contacts? this is not a sustainable way to live to have people isolating time and time again but I haven’t heard anyone talk about this and what the plan is once we go back to “normal”

Why would the fully vaxed be exempt from isolating? There is still the possibility of passing it to others.

It will slide away and hope the Hancock affair has covered the £40 billion waster, the 6 million lost tests, the failure to reduce the death rate and infection spread significantly and the appointment of Baroness Harding to another job she knows nothing about.

@florabella I think they are probably worried about cases rising and whether hospitalisations will start to rise quickly again, and the knock on effect, and I also think they want to go ahead with 19th July, I also think they don't actually give a shit - see behaviour around the Euros. There is a very divided opinion in the public about lifting restrictions, so by lifting them, but keeping T&T which guarantees it to fail, public opinion will be united again and we'll all be saying "something has to be done!"

It's complicated, and I think the govt are panicking.

@TheGenealogist

I am wondering how this will work for us next week in England. We live in Scotland, NHS is separate and there is a separate NHS Scotland app (which I don't have). The English app doesn't work in Scotland and vice versa.

I can;t register for the English app even if I wanted to because my address puts me in Scotland. But next week we'll be in England on holiday and hope to be going to lots of cafes and restaurants. They better not refuse me entry..

You don’t need the app to scan the qr code.

No, you are within rights to ask for pen and paper or can you use the postcode of the place you're staying?

I'd prefer to keep SD for a while longer but ditch the facemasks ASAP!

I meant to add, and I'd like everything to open up fully, replace isolation with daily testing but keep elements of distancing, eg physical distances in queues etc and on trains, and perhaps a seat between each group at the theatre and cinema etc. A bit hit and miss given close quarters elsewhere such as clubs and football matches, but better than nothing.

@user1471453601

Dido Harding happened.

She's failed at everything else, now she wants to fail as CEO of NHS

Bet she ends up pocketing ever more of the covid money as a nice cushion for the new NHS privatisation role wodge. She will be ridiculously bad at the new job but get paid regardless.

See I would rather they kept the distancing meaning less crowding in pubs but stopped the isolating unless you are actually unwell. We've all got the tests now, so if you've been in contact with positive case just test every morning for a week.

Track and trace will be very busy once social distancing ends!

I hope that double vaccinated people are treated differently to unvaccinated people who had no medical reason not to take a vaccine.

I hope that isolation (including school children and students) is only for unvaccinated close contacts.

Otherwise, what is the point? Might as well keep masks and social distancing rather than spend majority of time in self-isolations (especially school children for whom this is a current reality)

Why should people be treated differently based on their vaccine status?
The risk of getting/passing it on are reduced but not 100% guaranteed.

What happens to those who have had the virus and decided they don't want the vaccine? Any talks of a passport has included those previously exposed.

Is the there a vaccine that's been put on the emergency use list for children yet?

because double vaccinated people have a 80-90% reduced chance of even contracting Covid-19 and then on top of that a 50% reduced chance of transmitting it.

So their risk of transmission is 80-90% and then 50% less again.

So the need to self-isolate should reflect this dramatically reduced risk to others.

Also it's not the same as a Covid passport , so it wouldn't be for entry to mix in society, that's a different matter, and yes there is a place for a simple negative test for that: past infection, vaccination or negative test - that is for the Covid passport.

I was just talking about the self-isolation, which is purely designed to reduce transmission from a person who doesn't have a positive test result. So a double vaccinated person with a negative PCR test should not have to self-isolate IMHO.

@TheGenealogist

I am wondering how this will work for us next week in England. We live in Scotland, NHS is separate and there is a separate NHS Scotland app (which I don't have). The English app doesn't work in Scotland and vice versa.

I can;t register for the English app even if I wanted to because my address puts me in Scotland. But next week we'll be in England on holiday and hope to be going to lots of cafes and restaurants. They better not refuse me entry..

My family are down from Scotland atm. They have just given their details as they couldn't get the app. Nowhere had an issue with this.

@TheGenealogist

I am wondering how this will work for us next week in England. We live in Scotland, NHS is separate and there is a separate NHS Scotland app (which I don't have). The English app doesn't work in Scotland and vice versa.

I can;t register for the English app even if I wanted to because my address puts me in Scotland. But next week we'll be in England on holiday and hope to be going to lots of cafes and restaurants. They better not refuse me entry..

You'll be fine, I've never had the app - I either scan the QR code from my camera and fill in the details or good old pen and paper.