Fully vaccinated people may not need to isolate, says Hancock

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www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/21/fully-vaccinated-people-england-may-not-need-isolate-hancock-covid-stay-home-order?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1624277792

Mr Hancock has said this before. Better to act than to keep speculating.

The article specifically mentions the App, which is optional anyway. This should apply to the government's T&T service also.
After all, the government have access to this 'trial' - Gove didn't have to isolate after being close contact of a positive case on a plane to/from Portugal.
I would rather this (fully vaccinated people don't have to self isolate as close contacts) than the Amber list no-quarantine for fully vaccinated (since I have no plans to travel abroad, now, if ever).

As for isolating: I can keep avoiding people. They annoy me anyway.

How's this special double-jabbed status gets you privileges strategy - going to work when kids haven't been vaccinated, the only special places I'd want to go (due to having obtained the exalted double jabbed status) are places I also want to bring my kids -- and they aren't double-jabbed. So we can't go after all.

Given the pericarditis scare in USA I'm in no hurry to get my < 18s jabbed.

We've had this in place for a while in the US, and infections continued to drop after it was brought in.

Once my teens were fully vaccinated they were able to go to school consistently with no isolations even if exposed to someone who tested positive. It made things like sitting national exams much easier. It's definitely helped with getting life back to normal.

Having to do a test every day would not fill me with glee. I think I'd rather just do the isolation and just the release one at 5 days. But I work from home and don't have school-age children to get to school.

@ZZTopGuitarSolo

We've had this in place for a while in the US, and infections continued to drop after it was brought in.

Once my teens were fully vaccinated they were able to go to school consistently with no isolations even if exposed to someone who tested positive. It made things like sitting national exams much easier. It's definitely helped with getting life back to normal.

Good but am I right in thinking there is no testing required in this instance in the US and there is zero enforcement?

They are talking about us having to test (fine but no idea how you make people do this) and will try and enforce it too, God knows how.

but am I right in thinking there is no testing required in this instance in the US and there is zero enforcement?

If you're fully vaccinated then no, you don't need to do daily tests, so no, there's no enforcement of the daily tests here.

But if they did want to see the results of daily tests then the enforcement would be not letting the student attend school without the daily test results, or not letting the employee attend work without the daily test results.

Not sure if that answers your question?

A better solution is to isolate yourself in this situation whether fully vaccinated.

Good. What’s the bloody point in being vaccinated otherwise. I wish they’d hurry up & let kids have it so we weren’t constantly interrupting their education as well.

I'm sure we are still in trial and error stage so why not try it, keep doing pcr for vaccinated as well and shore up stats to see what we can and can't get away with?
Brilliant if double vacc don't need to isolate.