NHS APP

[Whywhywhy48]

I had a notification on my phone yesterday. The NHS APP says I have to isolate for 6 Days. It said my encounter was on the 13th June. I was at a Local Trampoline place. The people I was with don't have the NHS App and haven't been told to isolate. Has anyone had notifications from your NHS app??

I feel fine no symptoms

You probably sat within 2 metres of someone who was infectious for more than 15 minutes. The others you were with probably did too, but don't know, so they'll continue to spread it, potentially. That's the point of the app.

I finished my isolation at midnight last night! Same as you, apparently a close contact. I did have a PCR test as work asked me if I would (a school) but it was negative thankfully.
I can't wait to go out today!

My DD is on the last day of isolation, feels fine and had a negative PCR test, but she's stuck it out. She only had one notification (and not all her friends did) but found out three people she mixed with have tested positive.

The app told me and dh to isolate when dd1 tested positive. Then dh was told again when he already knew he was a close contact. Both times were very quickly after the code was put in to the app.

If they don't have the app they probably wont be told to self isolate but they will have had the same exposure as you. It's the app doing what it is supposed to do.

You can book a pcr as a close contact now, but a negative test doesn't mean that you can stop isolating.

I was with 3 Adults who don't have the App. They haven't heard anything. I wasn't next to anyone else. I'm always aware to keep my distance. I would of thought the trampoline place would of been in contact with the people who were there?

this is why you shouldn't have the app

They haven't heard anything because they don't have the app. The app has determined that you were in contact with someone who has told the app they have tested positive, ie your phone was near enough to theirs to count as a contact. The trampoline place may or may not have been told by Test and Trace about the positive test, but that is a separate system and isn't affected by whether or not the app has told you to isolate.

@Whywhywhy48

I was with 3 Adults who don't have the App. They haven't heard anything. I wasn't next to anyone else. I'm always aware to keep my distance. I would of thought the trampoline place would of been in contact with the people who were there?

They haven't heard anything because they don't have the app. If you don't know someone you can't tell them personally, can you

Realistically, if you were indoors you could have caught it from someone breathing the same air as you. You must have been close enough to someone who has now tested positive for long enough to trigger the app. It's great that you've been contacted, now you can isolate and prevent anyone else getting sick.

@Whywhywhy48

I was with 3 Adults who don't have the App. They haven't heard anything. I wasn't next to anyone else. I'm always aware to keep my distance. I would of thought the trampoline place would of been in contact with the people who were there?

It won’t be anything to do with the trampoline place and they won’t have been informed it just is because you have the app and your friends don’t. It’s ridiculous tbh and why lots of employers are telling their staff to switch off contact tracing (at least while at work) as people are being pinged all the time. Sometime because neighbours next door have tested positive because your phones are physically close even though there is a wall in between

If your phone rather than a person from t&t tells you to self isolate I believe it is a polite request rather than an actual legal requirement.

I think what op means is that surely the positive person would have told T&T they had been at the trampoline place and then they should be contacted and given details of anyone who had signed in?
Her friends haven't been contacted to isolate.

Tbh I wouldn't isolate because an app told me to but that is why I didn't download it, this is what the app does and you should have known that and by downloading it agreeing to do what it says.

surely the positive person would have told T&T they had been at the trampoline place and then they should be contacted and given details of anyone who had signed in?

This is how Test and Trace is supposed to work, but sadly it doesn't work at all. I'd be very surprised if the OP's friends hear anything, or if they do, it won't be until a couple of days before they'd be in the clear anyway.

Plus you can ignore the apps request to isolate, its only legal if you are contacted by t&t so whats the point??
I have the app but only to check into places, then i turn it off so even if it did ping me it could be days before i know.
Work have also told all staff to switch it off

And....ive just checked by 'check in history' and the locations ive checked in to show wrong timings, ie they all have a check out time of midnight when i could have left in the afternoon.....so does this mean it could ping me if someone tested positive who had visited at 10pm because the app still thinks im there??.
If so thats even more reason to ignore it!

I'd just be careful with your interactions for 6 days .. honestly it's ridiculous. If it was someone you were eating with and sat next ok, but someone just near you, I wouldn't bother. I would delete the app, in fact that's why I never got it.

The app can pick up signals through walls etc which is how I think I ended up with an alert last week
I'd been out on the Saturday but we kept to beer gardens and away from anyone else
At one point we were on a table right next to the pub wall and I can only presume it has picked up the signal from someone sat on the other side of the wall.
In theory you could even be in a traffic jam and it could pick up the signal from the car next to you
It's left me very wary of the app now

This is why I have contact tracing turned off.
Double vaxxed, have had Covid, no way amI isolating because I’ve been near a random somewhere.
If a properly close contact like a friend who I have spent hours with tests positive that’s different. Although TBH I think we’re getting to the stage where contacts isolating should stop.

indeed the whole idea that you should have to isolate because of a supposed close contact, but you have no idea who what that interaction was is ridiculous. I'd be doing my LFTs (doing them anyway) but broadly carrying on in your situation UNLESS you get a call from T&T.

Does the app work by checking in to places? Or from the signal?

Both. But you can switch off the second bit.

@Whywhywhy48 from what I understand you get the alert from being less than 2m away from an infected person for more than 10 mins. Checking in alerts the venue of an outbreak

Contact tracing and venue check in are separate functions. Only the former involves self-isolation.
faq.covid19.nhs.uk/article/KA-01312/en-us?parentid=CAT-01035&rootid=
"When you check into venues using the app and official NHS QR code posters, this data is held on your phone.

If it’s identified that people who were there on the same day have since tested positive for coronavirus, you may get an alert with advice on what to do. The venue check-in feature works independently of the contact tracing feature. If you get a venue alert it will not tell you to self-isolate."

Venue alerts might ask you to get tested, or just let you know so you can be extra careful, stuff like that.

This is why I have contact tracing turned off.

Me too. I have the app as its easier checking into places but my tracing is kept permanently turned off.