Is the delta variant this transmissible?

[BouncyDaisy]

The health officials and experts has said that the delta variant is more transmissible.

I was just chatting to a neighbour who has family living abroad in Australia where they found some cases of coronavirus of the delta variant. The woman explained to me that the health authorities in Australia wanted to tracked where and how the people got the covid19. She said to me that one of the men walked by another person and that's all it took for him to pick up an infection. I asked for more information and if these people were inside and sharing a space indoors together.

I finished up the conversation and went on my way.

Surely that's a load of bull rap?

2 people walking by each other in the street, one who has covid and the other not and the other person becoming exposed and developing an infection. The infected person who spread covid apparently wasn't even coughing. How can that be even possible? One person would surely have to be having a coughing fit to expose the other person to infectious fluids especially outside. None of what she told me made any sense.

Is the delta variant that transmissible where people can become infected just by walking by each other.

The Australian cases in Sydney are below - six in total. They use genomic sequencing to check the cases are matched and camera footage to confirm the interactions.

"There are now six cases associated with the eastern suburbs cluster: the initial case, a driver in his 60s who had contact with international air crew, his wife, a woman in her 70s who dined at a Vaucluse cafe with the driver, a man in his 50s who CCTV footage showed walked past the driver at Bondi Junction Westfield Myer and the two other Westfield cases announced on Saturday."

I am in Australia, and can assure you that no one is washing down their shopping. I'm in WA, we don't even need to wear masks.

@JeanClaudeVanDammit

There's been similar panics before in Aus, and it's turned out that it's been caused by people lying about their whereabouts and contacts.

Yes I’d be skeptical. I’m sure it could conceivably happen but it’s extremely unlikely. IIRC weren’t some of the earlier cases in Aus because the quarantine hotel guards were shagging the residents? Far more likely to be something like that!

That was proven to be false.

@DobbyTheHouseElk

How does showing CCTV prove that transmission happened that way. I’m in the UK and I’d be very doubtful. Be aware of the way that government is controlling its population.

If it was that bad, why did your PM come to the G7 and visit the Queen? Surely he must be very infectious right now.

He's currently quarantining and was also vaccinated prior to attending. www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/100223546

Why would ScoMo be infectious anyway? The man is a twat, but you do know only a couple of hundred people have Covid in all of Oz, and they are in quarantine or hospital. That's why its a big deal here when there is community transmission, also why tracing the virus is crucial, and also possible. Its just not out in the wild here, except in very unlucky and unusual circumstances.

"The man is a twat" yes he is

Oh dear, people are mis reading my posts.

@BouncyDaisy Every time someone who is infectious exhales, tiny drops of infectious moisture are carried on the breath. If wearing a mask the distance these can travel is limited . If outside, the breeze will disperse and dry them quickly. However, it would be possible to walk past someone and inhale a big lungful of just exhaled air, whuch will have millions of tiny droplets carrying potentially covid causing virus. There's quite a lot of things needing to line up, but totally possible. It doesnt have to be someone coughing to spread infectious droplets, breathing, speaking, shouting, singing does it too.

Yes, I agree with Nootkah. It's really unlikely and you'd be very unlucky to get enough exposure to catch it this way, but it is possible.

@Bloomsbury45 it's not like the toilet seat myth because HIV is blood-borne, so it would be impossible unless there was blood on the toilet seat and the person using the toilet also had an open cut. Whereas covid is airborne so it's possible (but unlikely).

If its so transmissible why is it not in the news more? Unfortunately I know some people who are not vaccinated and not fully vaccinated and they decided that they are done with the pandemic and done with social distancing and life is going back to normal for them. Out every week and every weekend and other activities and sharing public transport every week. Some of these people are quite questionable in their hygiene practices too in that they couldnt care less about others. They don't wear a mask properly and if they need to cough or sneeze it's done into the open.

How is covid/delta variant not spreading around like wildfire?

er, it is!

@BouncyDaisy It was possible to catch the old variants like this also, hence face masks. This isnt new news, or specific to the Delta variant. Theres just a much higher chance with Delta as it is so much more infectious.

As to why it isnt all over the news how infectious Delta varuant is ... I must be looking at different news to you because Im seeing it everywhere!

Oh and it is spreading like wildfire, look at that uptick. Cases are back to where we were in March, despite vaccination

In Australia every individual case is genome sequenced to see how it is linked to others. They had cctv footage of two strangers passing each other in a shop who then turned out to have identical versions of Covid. This is why there is a high level of anxiety around the Delta version.

Last 30 days in UK

@Squidlydoo

A colleague told me about her elderly in laws who have both contracted covid this week. Coincidentally (or not) all of the people in the adjoining house also have it, even though they don’t really mix apart from chatting over the fence.

Not saying that it can’t be a coincidence but in a low covid area it did make me think about exactly how transmissible is the virus

In normal times, if someone said "I've got a hideous cold. I think I caught it from my neighbour, chatting over the fence." would anyone be surprised? I'd certainly accept that they could have done that, so why not covid?

UK stats on R number.

www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker/

@StartupRepair

In Australia every individual case is genome sequenced to see how it is linked to others. They had cctv footage of two strangers passing each other in a shop who then turned out to have identical versions of Covid. This is why there is a high level of anxiety around the Delta version.

Thank goodness the vaccine works against it and we have a background level of immunity via prior infection. Australia are going into this without these advantages

Hmm.

Dh has it at the minute. (Tested positive 4 days ago) I’m yet to test positive / get any symptoms.

(Disclaimer - I’m aware this could change)

Also ds is fine too.

Nhs said Dh would of been infectious from last Wednesday (48 hours before his positive test) so me and ds have been with Dh for almost a week and not come down with anything. (yet) not sure how long we have left until we cannot contract it, anyone know?