25-29 year olds - why so keen for jabs

[Confusedaboutlots]

I will start this by saying I’m an avid pro-vaxxer and I was ecstatic to hear that 1 million 25-29 year olds booked in for their jabs on the first day they could (more than on any other day). Today there was a huge queue for vaccinations at a pop up clinic in Sheffield - most people waiting seemed in their 20s. People were saying they were very excited and couldn’t wait for the vaccine.

But I am also very surprised they did. I was expecting healthy 25 year olds to be more relaxed about covid purely based on morbidity/hospitalisation stats - and they are presumably one of the age groups already socialising a lot. Also there’s no talk yet of vaccine passports or vaccines being needed for domestic events.

I’m mid 30s and have generally been more concerned about covid from a personal perspective than my close friends and so I was very grateful and excited for the jab - many of my friends less so as they feel it’s a duty.

Please could someone let me know why they think 25-29 year olds were so keen on being vaccinated - keener than other age groups it seems. I like to think it’s because of altruistic reasons - that would be very heartwarming

thanks

My 18 year old had hers last week (text from GP, one date offered), she leapt at the chance, she’s been waiting for her turn. She wants to be part of helping bring around the end of the pandemic. She knows she’s at the back of the queue so the end is in sight. She wants to hug her grandparents without the messaging that she’s killing them. She wants to be able enjoy her life and catch up a bit of all she’s missed out on. She’s really grateful that she’ll be heading to uni fully vaccinated. I don’t think she particularly thinks she’s at risk of becoming very unwell herself (nor did I when I had mine) and I haven’t seen her mention it on social media.

I can't believe people actually think having the vaccine is going to get your lives back. First of all it was when all the vulnerable were vaccinated, then it was the older generations. Now the restrictions are continuing despite many vaccinated. Can't believe people are still falling for this crap.

@cantkeepawayforever

Same as there's absolutely no justification for giving it to kids

Except that they currently have to miss 10 days of school if in contact with a positive case. The obvious benefit of double vaccination for all would be an end to self-isolation of contacts, leaving it only required for confirmed positive individuals and their households.

They don't have to miss school if everyone else is vaccinated. This is such back-to-front logic! The answer is to stop the isolation not needlessly vaccinate.

@Abraxan

Funfortheroad - any idea why children are given the annual flu vaccine?

1) Flu is FAR more dangerous for children than Covid is.

2. The flu vaccine, although tweaked each year, is a very very well tried and tested vaccine. The side effects are thoroughly known and understood, as well as the contraindications including which children should not receive it. The safety data goes back decades. None of this is true for the Covid vaccine.

Because this variant is running riot amongst the younger age groups? Whilst they may be able to fight it off it’s still a awful awful infection to suffer

Where I live teens can get vaccinated. 17 year old DHS stepped right up. He told me he just wants the pandemic gone. It has been very hard on him this year at school. He is in grade 12 and did the subjects in 10 week sections. That is very compressed and very hard work while worrying about and applying for uni.

Agree with @Funfortheroad

@SophieGiroux

I can't believe people actually think having the vaccine is going to get your lives back. First of all it was when all the vulnerable were vaccinated, then it was the older generations. Now the restrictions are continuing despite many vaccinated. Can't believe people are still falling for this crap.

So what will get people's lives back?

Funfortheroad

Whilst flu can be a nasty virus for children, like many viruses can be, it's not FAR more likely when you look at the stats.

And you also miss the fact that on the government's very own NHS pages they clearly state that one of the reasons for giving children the annual flu vaccine is to protect other more vulnerable and/or elderly adults, as well as vulnerable babies. So actually one of the key reasons for giving the flu vaccine for children is to protect others. It's written in black and white on the nhs pages.

Cos they want to go to Ibiza and get off their faces and laid

(That was my motivation when I was their age 🤷‍♀️)

@SophieGiroux

I can't believe people actually think having the vaccine is going to get your lives back. First of all it was when all the vulnerable were vaccinated, then it was the older generations. Now the restrictions are continuing despite many vaccinated. Can't believe people are still falling for this crap.

Exactly there will always be another variant to scare people with- it’s actually impossible for there to be waves like before with the amount of vulnerable elderly vaccinated

@Sleepyblueocean

"and the risk is one I don’t believe any decent parent"

As soon as I see phrases like "decent parent" in vaccine discussions, I know I am seeing someone who has no decent argument to make and the only thing they can do is insult people

My points of view are there, read it or don’t - it’s an opinion. Just like I have an opinion on parents who choose not to give the routine jabs that protect their babies health to them

As for rubella, it could affect THEIR unborn children in THEIR wombs when older- again all them and theirs. My child isn’t being vaccinated for anyone else’s greater good.

I assume your kids are girls. In which case, there was no need for them to have the mumps part of the vaccine. Mumps is vaccinated against primarily because it can render boys sterile. It is generally not considered dangerous for girls.

First of all it was when all the vulnerable were vaccinated, then it was the older generations. Now the restrictions are continuing despite many vaccinated. Can't believe people are still falling for this crap.

Nobody ever said normality would be reached when the vulnerable were vaccinated. Nor when the older generations were. It was always the case that a fully vaccinated population was what would bring back something approaching normality.

The restrictions are continuing because the more recent variants are more virulent and that in itself is a risk.

It’s fine if you don’t understand the science, but calling it crap is ridiculous.

@MintyMabel

As for rubella, it could affect THEIR unborn children in THEIR wombs when older- again all them and theirs. My child isn’t being vaccinated for anyone else’s greater good.

I assume your kids are girls. In which case, there was no need for them to have the mumps part of the vaccine. Mumps is vaccinated against primarily because it can render boys sterile. It is generally not considered dangerous for girls.

Thanks, Minty. That's interesting and I wasn't aware of it.

Here’s why, it’s spreading fastest in that age group:

Mumps is vaccinated against primarily because it can render boys sterile. It is generally not considered dangerous for girls

Girls can have oophoritis as a complication of mumps. NHS website says incidence is 1 in 20. Lower than the 1 in 4 for orchitis (which may lower sperm count, but does not inevitably lead to infertility) but still not a possibility to be overlooked.

@MintyMabel

As for rubella, it could affect THEIR unborn children in THEIR wombs when older- again all them and theirs. My child isn’t being vaccinated for anyone else’s greater good.

I assume your kids are girls. In which case, there was no need for them to have the mumps part of the vaccine. Mumps is vaccinated against primarily because it can render boys sterile. It is generally not considered dangerous for girls.

that's not true, mumps can be very nasty for either sex.

Current stats shows viral meningitis occurs in 1/7 cases, acute pancreatitis in 1/20.

Rarer complications include encephalitis (1/1000) and permanent hearing loss (1/20,000)

Reminds me of a point someone made at work the other day- the fatal flaw in good vaccination programmes is that when they work well people forgot how nasty these diseases are when left to freely spread through the population

she said it more eloquently though

@speckledostrichegg

Reminds me of a point someone made at work the other day- the fatal flaw in good vaccination programmes is that when they work well people forgot how nasty these diseases are when left to freely spread through the population

she said it more eloquently though

God, imagine the sheer luxury of being able to forget about Covid like we mostly do about smallpox et al. It would improve conversation immeasurably.

I'm 29 and not at risk. Frankly, I'm more likely to die from the vaccine itself than of Covid. I booked the minute I could.

I don't think life is going to go back to normal for the unvaccinated. International travel will likely require vaccination. Come September, I wouldn't be surprised if vaccine passports are introduced. I want my life back.

@SophieGiroux

I can't believe people actually think having the vaccine is going to get your lives back. First of all it was when all the vulnerable were vaccinated, then it was the older generations. Now the restrictions are continuing despite many vaccinated. Can't believe people are still falling for this crap.

That was never the case. It’s was always when the vaccination programme is complete.

Viruses mutate when they are passed from person to person, to reduce the risk or a dangerous variant arising (one that is immune to vaccinations or one that kills everyone who gets it) you have to keep transmission down, and that means as much vaccination as possible, and keeping people apart until they are vaccinated.

This is separate from letting the older and more vulnerable groups go first because they put the biggest strain on health resources.

@RestingPandaFace actually they said it was when 15 million people had been jabbed that we would get our freedom. What a joke, the goalposts will forever be moving. They don't even know how long the vaccine is effective for yet. It may only work for 9 months and then the process starts all over again, forever jabbing...