Testing for contacts of cases in school.

[JocastaNu]

Our primary school issued new guidance yesterday, stating that if a child is in close contact with a case (eg, their bubble collapses), then they should get a PCR test. However, even if the PCR test is negative, they still have to isolate for ten days. So essentially, every time the class bubble pops, the whole class has to get tested, but still isolate regardless of the result.

DS is 8, suspected possible ASD with loads of sensory issues. I have tested him twice and both times he had a full on panic attack with hyperventilation etc.

I've done everything I'm meant to have done so far. Followed all the rules etc. But the prospect of making him test when he doesn't have symptoms has really made me hit peak Covid.

Has anyone else been told similar in primary schools?

It’s probably idiots like @RedcurrantPuff who are refusing to isolate that are causing the bubbles to burst in schools

I’m past caring now about the whole thing and what people say , I’ve had 2 vaccine doses. The chances of me getting it or passing it on are low. Back at the tail end of last year it was reported that apparently only 1 in 7 people with actual symptoms or positive tests were isolating so no, I don’t give a monkeys any more. Funny enough this is what happens when you lock up healthy vaccinated people for no good reason .

I’m done with being made a mug out of by this government. You can all keep going if you want.

So will you pay the fine if you don’t isolate @RedcurrantPuff?

Back at the tail end of last year it was reported that apparently only 1 in 7 people with actual symptoms or positive tests were isolating

And you can't make the connection between that and our still being in a mess? Even if the risk of you getting / passing on is low, you haven't said whether your DCs have been vaccinated .... so they are at high risk of catching and spreading, not likely without symptoms . While classes are being isolated when parents are complaining about how much schooling they've missed. We have hairdressers and restaurants locally which have just reopened being shut down again because of staff testing positive. Guess you don't care about that either.

• most likely , not 'not likely'

Not in a hotspot area and haven't had the delta variant in are school. About a third of all cases in the area are delta though

The council have asked for all the kids to be LFT twice a week. The schools have their own reporting system for negative and positive tests. If you get a positive you can get a PCR test from the school to check it.

Class bubbles for primary have to isolate no matter what if anyones PCR test is positive. If only the LFT is positive then just that child isolates. As considered a low viral shredder.

The secondary only isolates people that have been seated within 2 metres of a positive LFT or PCR test. If the student sat near is a mask wearer or has been doing twice weekly tests as required exceptions are made. That is not a stated rule but is obvious to the students and parents what is happening. Which is why the majority of are students are still wearing their masks.

You can still pass it on even with the vaccine. How thick and bloody ignorant!!

That was meant for @RedcurrantPuff

@RedcurrantPuff

I’ll not be isolating me or my kids as contacts. Yes if we test positive or have symptoms of course but not just as contacts, that is just horseshit now. Call me selfish all you want, I’m giving as much of a fuck as the government about Covid now/

Testing as contacts I'm on board with people not doing that where it would distress their child, providing they are isolating. However isolating as a contact it would be incredibly unreasonable to not do that! So you would send your children to school who could then pass it on to my child who may well be your child's best friend and potentially kill my child? And may also lead to the rest of your child's class having to isolate for 10 days as well impacting on all their families just because you couldn't be bothered with it impacting on you. Don't give me the whole shit about cruel it is for children for 10 days isolation. My children put up with more than a year of isolation. I have reported people like yourself and will continue to do so.

@RedcurrantPuff

I’m past caring now about the whole thing and what people say , I’ve had 2 vaccine doses. The chances of me getting it or passing it on are low. Back at the tail end of last year it was reported that apparently only 1 in 7 people with actual symptoms or positive tests were isolating so no, I don’t give a monkeys any more. Funny enough this is what happens when you lock up healthy vaccinated people for no good reason .

I’m done with being made a mug out of by this government. You can all keep going if you want.

But your children haven't been double vaccinated have they? So they are a risk to others if they are going around spreading covid as a contact of a positive case. The world really is so unfair, some wonderful people go through the most horrific of circumstances and then you have selfish people like yourself who just because you are healthy, don't give a fuck about the impact on others and feel like you are exempt from any small measure that might benefit anyone else other than yourself. I'm glad I don't know anyone quite so selfish in real life.

I'm glad I don't know anyone quite so selfish in real life.

Here's hoping. Problem is you won't know because they are hardly likely to tell you they are supposed to be isolating but are out and about.

That's standard practice where I live

@RockingMyFiftiesNot

I'm glad I don't know anyone quite so selfish in real life.

Here's hoping. Problem is you won't know because they are hardly likely to tell you they are supposed to be isolating but are out and about.

Very true and also very unfortunate.

@MattsHolidayTan

So the government want a 'freedom day' in which the whole country can ditch masks, cram into the pub, etc, but kids still have to sit at home for 10 days with a negative test and no symptoms, even 16-18 year olds who are fully vaccinated.

Our children will remember this. It is not right. All over 25s can now book a vaccine. It is inhumane to be treating children like this, especially those in exam years who stand to miss out on the chance to prove their ability in assessments and exams.

It won't be just children. Anyone who is a close contact (and let's face it within a classroom pretty much every child will be a close enough contact over the period of an hour or more's lesson time) will still be expected to self isolate.

I also don't believe it's a 'freedom day' where everything stops. That's never been said and only been called it that by the media and the public from what I've seen/heard.

There's never been any statement to say that on x date all restrictions and all measures just stop,

@ineedaholidaynow

So will you pay the fine if you don’t isolate *@RedcurrantPuff*?

What fine? If 6 out of 7 people with actual Covid, including an elected member of the U.K. parliament get away with not isolating, I think I’d take my chances.

The rules on isolating contacts are now ridiculous. Locking up healthy people and preventing them earning a living and kids being educated. For no good reason. I have known loads of people ID as contacts and isolate and not one develop Covid. But sure, do have a go at me for, let’s not forget, having actually done nothing wrong nor broken any rules (given I’ve never been actually asked to isolate) whilst MPs, Dominic Cummings, countless other people, get away with it. Whilst people give false details to test and trace.

I’ve done all that’s been asked and been double vaccinated. But yeah, I’m the “selfish” one. You’re just randoms on mumsnet so what you think has no consequence, and the word “selfish” has been bandied about that much this last year it means nothing now.

@jumpbounce I don’t think you should be commenting on my health. You know nothing.

@Pinkandpink

You can still pass it on even with the vaccine. How thick and bloody ignorant!!

Lol

In this case why don’t we all just stay locked down and never leave our houses ever again?

In this case why don’t we all just stay locked down and never leave our houses ever again?

Don't be ridiculous. There's a huge difference between keeping everyone locked down and refusing to isolate when you've been in contact with a positive case. Especially your unvaccinated children.

There is however a connection between ignorant people refusing to lockdown when they have been in contact with positive cases and the need for protracted measures. If we are put back into lockdown, it'll be down to people like you.

@RedcurrantPuff

Margaret Terrier was charged by the police, so I would not say she has got away with not isolating.

Ha - autocorrect changed Ferrier to Terrier!

Here we are 'I'm so fed up/had enough/kids lost out sooo much' blah, blah blah. Newsflash: YOU don't get to decide when a pandemic is over. It's a virus. Not a programme of events.
I hate lockdowns. I hate restrictions. I do however have enough intelligence to see why we are being asked to do these things like increased testing and isolation. It shouldn't be so bloody difficult to understand.

@RedcurrantPuff

I’ll not be isolating me or my kids as contacts. Yes if we test positive or have symptoms of course but not just as contacts, that is just horseshit now. Call me selfish all you want, I’m giving as much of a fuck as the government about Covid now/

Christ on a bike, I hope your children aren't in the same school as someone like my ds, who is medically vulnerable. I think selfish is the least of it.

I would test my children because I would want to know if they have had the virus and therefore some future immunity. But not in your case OP if your child really struggles.

Really, kids who have tested positive should not have to isolate again in the future, at least not for a period of time. Some other countries are doing this now (positive test=same status as vaccination), maybe that will happen here eventually. The multiple isolations are not fair on children.

As your son can't do a test I would keep him self isolating at home for 10 days instead. I would get tests for the rest of the household just in case though.

RedcurrantPuff
Of course I don’t want to be locked up forever. I want life to get back to normal just like everyone else. I want my children to have a normal childhood, not stuck in the house having to isolate. But it’s selfish people like you, oh it not just you, there a plenty of selfish sods out there who are not complying with the rules who are holding us all back. Do you think I’m actually enjoying isolating with my kids? Having to take an unpaid week of my work, which I can’t afford. I do it as I follow the guidelines and to stop the spread of the disease. Oh I might be ok if I caught it, but my elderly parents prob wouldn’t stand a chance. Get a grip!