Waiting for DC's PCR covid test results but why can't we go out if double vaccinated ??

[hopingtochangeeachtime]

Still waiting on my DC's test result, but both me & DH have had both our jabs, no illness, so I don't see why we can't leave the house ? Obviously not at the same time as DC is only 5 and very snotty. Of course he's not coughed since getting the test, but there was Covid cases in his school not his class. I think the guidelines need updating or what's the point of having the jab?

You could pass it on to someone unvaccinated. Not everyone has been offered the vaccine yet.

@hopingtochangeeachtime

Aghhh I don't see the point of the jab if you can still catch it. Surely this isn't the case with the other jabs we get like measles ?

Surely at some point this has to stop? We can’t be testing everyone who coughs forever more.....

Fucksake, you all have the internet. The information about the vaccines is on gov.uk. you don't need a piece of paper.

Aghhh I don't see the point of the jab if you can still catch it.

The point of the jab is that it deceases the chances of you getting super ill from
Covid and needing to be hospitalised. Quite an important point IMO

Surely at some point this has to stop? We can’t be testing everyone who coughs forever more.....

Presumably it will stop at some point, yes. There is a big period of time between 'today' and 'forever more' though. We are goingt obe testing at least until everyone has had both doses and presumably a fair while after as we need the sequencing to track variants and we really do need to keep cases down.

@hopingtochangeeachtime - surely you know all this about the vaccine already? Even if you only read the paperwork you were given when you had it. Or do you think you're 'special?'

The result is in and it's negative. It's not about what I know, I am asking why guidance hasn't changed? Fair enough if the answer is not enough people have been vaccinated, although surely this will need to change by freedom day.

I didn't say I went out. I was saying it's a bit OTT. And as far as I remember the leaflet I got had the side effects and that's about it.

In Switzerland, if you have been vaccinated within the last 6 months with an mRNA vaccine, you don’t need to self isolate, after contact with Covid positive. So clearly it is different in some countries.
At this rate, the government will need to start looking at giving vaccinated people more freedom or they won’t bother with boosters, I certainly won’t. Also kids in contact at school were meant to be allowed to do Daily Lateral Flow tests instead of isolating, again, government haven’t delivered.
I was in Central London today. Absolutely heaving, no social distancing, you isolating is probably pointless

The point of you getting the jab is to reduce your chance of serious illness, and needing hospital.
There are no "perks", and you don't get to skip the usual isolating rules either. That is a slippery slope into a two tier society that I am sure no one wants.

You actually thought the vaccine stops you getting COVID? How ignorant!

@baldafrique

You actually thought the vaccine stops you getting COVID? How ignorant!

Well I am a bit special

Many young people are not too worried about getting Covid. Quite a few won’t bother with the vaccine if the message has been a) the young are unlikely to end up
in hospital anyway, even less likely to die b) no perks getting the vaccine. Why would people then bother with the vaccine?

Of course, vaccines significantly reduce both the risk of getting Covid and risk of onward transmission.

The main reason why UK has not lifted self-isolation rules for fully vaccinated individuals is the sense of solidarity/fair play. Young healthy people have not yet been invited for their vaccinations. They are also the group who arguably sacrificed the most during the pandemic even though their personal risk is negligible. It will not be perceived as fair if young still have to self-isolate while fully vaccinated older people just go on with their lives.

@wintertravel1980

Of course, vaccines significantly reduce both the risk of getting Covid and risk of onward transmission.

The main reason why UK has not lifted self-isolation rules for fully vaccinated individuals is the sense of solidarity/fair play. Young healthy people have not yet been invited for their vaccinations. They are also the group who arguably sacrificed the most during the pandemic even though their personal risk is negligible. It will not be perceived as fair if young still have to self-isolate while fully vaccinated older people just go on with their lives.

See, until Friday I would have wholeheartedly agreed with you but now my DC and 29 other healthy children are isolating AGAIN for the whole of half term because a double vaccinated adult has tested positive with no symptoms whatsoever.

If ending routine testing, isolation etc for double vaccinated adults would have a positive impact on children in their care in those circumstances I'd be fully supportive.

In my country if you've been fully vaccinated you don't have to quarantine after exposure (or if you've recovered from diagnosed covid in the last 6 months), interesting that you still have to in the UK. I suppose we'll find out soon enough if that's a bad way to do it at this point in time.