Why are people such selfish dicks

[gimmiesomethingfast]

Just had a fella come in for his booked on the day over the phone haircut, I explained I'd take his details when he got here for track and trace.
Anyway, chatting away at the end of his haircut he announces that he is just back from cambodia and should be at hone isolating so could I make out his appointent for later in the week when he would be allowed out. I was stunned and asked why on earth he was out then and he said he needed a haircut! I said he was putting me at risk and he claimed he thought haircuts were allowed in isolation.
I now feel sick.
My business can't take being closed again especially when other barbers are open, especially at half term. I'm sure it'll be ok, I'm probably worrying over nothing but I don't need this worry.
I just feel so sick

I am just going on the response of the OP who seemed very overwhelmed by the situation and to have got to risk out of proportion.

I think this a little patronizing, you don't know the OPs circumstances and it didn't sound like she was overwhelmed, just annoyed.

It's also different when you it's not just about you but specifically about your business which presumably has already been hit hard by COVID

@CuriousaboutSamphire

I kind of agree with this. What are the chances of this bloke having it assuming he was asymptomatic and considering the current level in the UK? I am sure somebody will be able to calculate it far better than I can but I am guessing they were miniscule. For him as an individual yes, relatively small. But for everyone returning from an Amber or Red country? How are you going to calculate it?

Each person as a single individual = really small risk
2 hundred people per plane load = ?????

And how do you recognise the high risk individual? Oh! Yes, you can't tell by looking and some are asymptomatic! Test and isolate!

Dont forget that in some cases countries on these lists can have a lower infection rate than us.

It isnt a global ranking, its what our Government have decided

@strangeshapedpotato

Read the first seven words in my post

Try not to worry OP, the case rate in Cambodia is extremely low, as is their death rate. You'd be at greater risk in Bolton than you are with someone that has visited Cambodia.

To give some context, in a population of 16 million, there has been less than 200 deaths. That would be the equivalent of 800 total deaths in the UK.

(He absolutely shouldn't have been out, but best to keep this risk in perspective.)

Why do you think there are already 0.1-0.2 million UK Covid fatalities so far with unknown old and young long post Covid syndrome suffers unaccounted for? The virus naturally needs a vector to spread. It’s this type of attitude of indifference and not taking any civic duty of care community responsibility that has allowed this contagious virus to super spread and mutate. In this scenario at least the rule breaker was relaxed and open about it thinking rules don’t matter. It’s probably similar to all those who suddenly en masse developed a self diagnosed disability to avoid mask wearing and need to protect others and possibly themselves. This is not unexpected when many Brits think they are invincible and oh there is of course our world beating classic exceptionalism entitlement culture favouring instant gratification irrespective of rules or potential impact on others and effectively anti long term sustainable Covid risk management. Unlike the nations that have taken this super seriously like Taiwan, Australia and New Zealand, we have procrastinating incompetent political guidance hoping the public will have a sensible pragmatic approach. This pandemic is evidently also one of indifference and full of non believers. That is until they are next in trouble or their family or friends are impacted.

When one travels to another nation the basic science is that ie the potential r rate is dependent on all the people you come into contact with. So even if Cambodian authorities claim super low Covid data (it’s a poor developing nation with poor healthcare) there is the possibility that it will be a transition transmission hub full of travellers from around the globe. You go there not just interacting with locals but in turn also all the those they have recently come into contact with. In other words the concept of the visiting multiple homes healthcare worker or logistics driver meeting and potentially transferring and collecting viruses between all contacts. The current Indian variant in the UK is likely to have spread here because the UK government gave Indians a heads up before travel restrictions were to be implemented to allow a floodgate to escape restrictions and then many after the latest rules mysteriously traveled from Indian sub continent via Turkey etc knowing that they may be carriers but undected at the time of testing prior to flights. This is the case of Indian variants recently imported into Hong Kong and Singapore. Negative at departure point (but admittedly tested to Indian healthcare standards) and then subsequently positive on arrival. If this is not so contagious it would never have traveled so far and so offen.

And this is what allowing mass travel will do.

You can't rely on people's common sense or to do the right thing. Too many have no empathy.

@Orf1abc

Try not to worry OP, the case rate in Cambodia is extremely low, as is their death rate. You'd be at greater risk in Bolton than you are with someone that has visited Cambodia.

To give some context, in a population of 16 million, there has been less than 200 deaths. That would be the equivalent of 800 total deaths in the UK.

(He absolutely shouldn't have been out, but best to keep this risk in perspective.)

Yeah, but they're still hanging around in airports for hours.

Thanks for the replies.
Overwhelmed by his self entitled arse behaviour absolutely.
This is my livelihood-my business. Pays my mortgage and feeds my kids.
I've had to isolate twice already due to people coming in then testing positive.
I've only been permitted to work 5 months out of the last 14.
Regardless of the risk involved it is NOT his place to put that on me without my full consenting knowledge.
Im angry, worried and sick if this whole shit show.

Sorry about that x I do mean thanks for the replies xx

I wonder what essential travel he had to do in Cambodia.

Never cut his hair ever again. Perhaps even report him to the police now you have his details.

I agree the risk is very low, but that is not the point. It would not surprise me if there are other places he is going to and not staying at home otherwise.

@Thatswatshesaid so do I, though I doubt if there is evidence say on his computer at home.

FFS this is so annoying! Why do these rule breakers not see that they are impacting people’s lives. If you test positive then you’ll have to isolate and have no income - but as long as the guy got a haircut then it’s ok.

If he was isolating he wouldn’t even see many people so wouldn’t need a haircut anyway.

I’m assuming it’s not exactly legal to knowingly put the wrong information on track and trace stuff. So not only has he risked your health and your business, he’s also asked you to risk whatever legal penalties there are for not doing the forms properly.

I’m so angry for you. I’d be reporting him.

[quote gimmiesomethingfast]@Aposterhasnoname I think he was just scrambling around to justify himself after he saw my reaction.
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It'd be such a shame if ppl in an official capacity found out that he's breached quarantine.

He is a total that but if he would have been out of quarantine later in the week he must be at least half way maybe more through quarantine and assuming he tested negative to get into the country hopefully the chances are that he will not be contagious. It doesn't justify what he has done but hopefully the risk to you is fairly low.

I’m assuming Cambodia probably hasn’t reported all deaths so their rate can’t be totally relied on. There will be areas in the country with very poor healthcare/infrastructure so assume people won’t be tested as much as they are here.

I cant make any sense of why he would want records altered here. Does he think there will be random checks made in hairdressers logs and such? Not getting why he tinks this is benefitical, or needed?!

Also yes, selfish prick. Just a little baffled by this request!