Holiday to Amber County

[Ilovedmybed1985]

My husband and I booked a family holiday to an Amber country last year. We have two young children (ages 1 and 2). I have read the guidelines about covid tests you have to do before and after your holiday. However, I cannot see if children have to do them too. Does anyone know where I can find information on this? Thank you.

If it’s for a wedding then I think that changes things

@FusionChefGeoff

Just because other people have behaved like dicks (travel to India) that shouldn't give you an excuse to act like one too especially when the evidence of the consequences is staring us in the face.

Op can travel to Greece (not banned) When they’re back they take 3 tests and self isolate for 10 days.

Which part of it is being a dick?

If they don’t follow the law (3 tests and self isolate then I agree with you, if not then again let’s stop at pointing fingers , it’s been enough of that in the last year)

TUI cancelled my friends holiday 6 days before to Greece. They were doing a package on COVID tests £90 per person for all the tests required when travelling to an amber country but everyone had to done kids and adults. Her youngest is 6.

Amber holidays ARE NOT ILLEGAL
Amber holidays ARE ADVISED AGAINST
Advised against DOES NOT mean ILLEGAL
Ffs

@EasterIssland the Gov advice is against all but essential travel to Greece. Not holidays. Not weddings. Essential travel only. We've seen the impact of uncontrolled travel and everyone moaned (rightly) that Gov didn't red list India earlier. So now they are advising against travel to amber I think that needs to be adhered to.

Personally, going against government advice in the middle of a pandemic puts you in the 'behaving like a dick' category. Not illegal. But dickish.

As of next week Spain is requiring no tests to come in to Spain

@Frazzled2207 this is incorrect. Please do not spread false information. Travelling between certain areas within Spain with a low incidence and/or after receiving your vaccines, will mean tests aren’t required. Tests remain compulsory for those coming from abroad.

[quote FusionChefGeoff]@EasterIssland the Gov advice is against all but essential travel to Greece. Not holidays. Not weddings. Essential travel only. We've seen the impact of uncontrolled travel and everyone moaned (rightly) that Gov didn't red list India earlier. So now they are advising against travel to amber I think that needs to be adhered to.

Personally, going against government advice in the middle of a pandemic puts you in the 'behaving like a dick' category. Not illegal. But dickish. [/quote]
The key work in your sentence is ADVICE. YOu can advice me and I can follow your advice or not.

I’ll happily be a dick if I manage to go to my amber holiday

@EileenGC

As of next week Spain is requiring no tests to come in to Spain

@Frazzled2207 this is incorrect. Please do not spread false information. Travelling between certain areas within Spain with a low incidence and/or after receiving your vaccines, will mean tests aren’t required. Tests remain compulsory for those coming from abroad.

I don’t think that’s the case @EileenGC Pedro has announced today in fitur is that as of 24th of may British won’t need a pcr to travel to Spain , he’s not mentioned whether you’ve to be vaccinated.

El presidente del Gobierno, Pedro Sánchez, ha anunciado este viernes la apertura de España al turismo británico y a otros países terceros (de fuera de la UE) considerados seguros a partir del lunes, "sin requisitos de entrada ni controles", y también a todos los vacunados, independientemente del país de origen, a partir del día 7 de junio.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.elmundo.es/economia/empresas/2021/05/21/60a7748dfc6c83bb728b457b.html

It’s the age old... you became so caught up in if you COULD you didn’t stop to think if you SHOULD.

The law says yes because the gov doesn’t want to pay out to travel firms and to allow discretion for emergencies and international families.

The guidance clearly says no for holidays and your main worry is if you even have to bother testing the children 🤷🏻‍♀️

@Drawcilla

It’s the age old... you became so caught up in if you COULD you didn’t stop to think if you SHOULD.

The law says yes because the gov doesn’t want to pay out to travel firms and to allow discretion for emergencies and international families.

The guidance clearly says no for holidays and your main worry is if you even have to bother testing the children 🤷🏻‍♀️

You are clearly one of those people that could afford to lose thousands cancelling a holiday that you won't receive a refund for. A lot of people are going on holidays which were booked last year or the year before and have been moved once or twice. Some were booked before covid was heard of.

@Drawcilla

It’s the age old... you became so caught up in if you COULD you didn’t stop to think if you SHOULD.

The law says yes because the gov doesn’t want to pay out to travel firms and to allow discretion for emergencies and international families.

The guidance clearly says no for holidays and your main worry is if you even have to bother testing the children 🤷🏻‍♀️

You get so caught up whether it is should or could that you’ve not answered the ops question and the reason they opened the thread which is whether they need to get their kids tested or not.

@EileenGC

As of next week Spain is requiring no tests to come in to Spain

@Frazzled2207 this is incorrect. Please do not spread false information. Travelling between certain areas within Spain with a low incidence and/or after receiving your vaccines, will mean tests aren’t required. Tests remain compulsory for those coming from abroad.

Not spreading incorrect info. British and japanese exempt

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/travel/2021/may/21/spain-to-drop-covid-restrictions-on-british-visitors-from-24-may

[quote Onceuponatime1818]@FusionChefGeoff

Yes it’s quite obvious that people shouldn’t be holidaying to Amber countries, but unfortunately people are inherently selfish. Thus a year later still this shit show[/quote]
DH and I have both had 2 vaccines. We have a holiday home in an Amber country. We work from home and can self-isolate when we get back - we would follow all the rules for both countries.

The rates where we live are extremely low, as they are in our holiday home destination. We would drive so no risk at airports.

How exactly are we being selfish? The risk is very very low.

@Tulipomania I agree with you and even if you were flying the risk is tiny,and certainly can't be any more than shopping in M and S or Ikea which are heaving with people.
I think the messages from the govt are in the knowledge that people will go on holiday, but it will scaremonger enough people not to travel at the moment so that it is a more gradual process allowing confidence to build slowly before they make these countries green

[quote thoroughlyfuckedoff]@Tulipomania I agree with you and even if you were flying the risk is tiny,and certainly can't be any more than shopping in M and S or Ikea which are heaving with people.
I think the messages from the govt are in the knowledge that people will go on holiday, but it will scaremonger enough people not to travel at the moment so that it is a more gradual process allowing confidence to build slowly before they make these countries green[/quote]
Or going to a wedding from June on when social distancing is removed and you can meet with 100 people without masks

I’ve got two holidays booked. One amber one green. I’ll be flying if those flights depart. I’ve been stupid enough in the last year following guidance whilst people break the law. For once I’ll not follow guidance, however, ill self isolate when I come back and take the 3 tests I’m requested. You’re not a dick for not following advice.

The 2 vaccine argument is frustrating in itself as lots of us haven’t even been offered one

So completely confused. Almost Google Amber county thinking it was an actual place, before it clicked!

Just because certain posters don’t want you to go, doesn’t mean they can make up the law.

It’s fine to go as long as you follow the rules at either end. I wouldn’t be listening to government ‘advice’ about anything at the moment. And yes to thousands flying to red countries for essential weddings.

Those that call it selfish, well who cares really? You sit at home in this shitty, rainy country for the greater good. Millions will be flying out when they can so pointless really.

The least selfish thing to do is get vaccinated if you can and then crack on with your life.

The problem is whilst the holiday companies and airlines are still flying to these places people will go or they'll lose their money.

We have a holiday booked to an amber country in august. We booked this holiday back in 2019 for 2020. Last year we moved it to this summer.

The travel company are still flying there. If we don't get on the flight we'll lose our money. If they offered us a refund I would take it. But because it's not against the law, they are still flying. The government need to only have green and red if they want to stop people going abroad for holidays.

Face palm.

Pandemic management is NOT based on individual risk it's addressed on a general societal risk.

@FusionChefGeoff

Face palm.

Pandemic management is NOT based on individual risk it's addressed on a general societal risk.

Exactly that’s why they’ve not banned like Til the 17th of may but advice not to. If it was so risky to go to Greece then they would say it’s red country. You still can go for emergencies but have to isolate in a hotel when you are back. But they’ve not done that.

It’s like Xmas get together. Government didn’t ban them but advised not to meet with other people. And each person did whatever they wanted.

Contact your travel insurers. If they wont cover you,don't go. There are more things that can go wrong than covid. Don't be one of the stupid gofundme brigade of uninsured travellers.

@murbblurb

Contact your travel insurers. If they wont cover you,don't go. There are more things that can go wrong than covid. Don't be one of the stupid gofundme brigade of uninsured travellers.

There are insurances that will cover you , I’ve put a link in another comment

That might help the op.

The issue is of course that Johnson won't say 'dont go' as that will cost the government money. With amber status people may lose the cost of their holiday.