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Do we know the risk of the Indian Variant for under 40s unvaccinated yet?

43 replies

beebopalola · 18/05/2021 18:09

Just seems like it's been very quiet on the age front of people who have been admitted to hospital or have been registered as a case of the new strain.

Probably just because they don't have the data yet, but I was wondering if the anecdotal stories coming out of India are true and it's more severe for younger people than the previous strains.

I've been looking at articles and reports but everything seems to discuss the affect on the vaccinated and whether the vaccinated are getting it, nothing has really come up that I've seen - and I could have missed it -about the under 40s, aside from Singapore closing schools as they seem to think this strain affects children more. (not necessarily severely, but more than previous strains)

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Mimmommum · 20/05/2021 01:38

I was talking about people in India.

Torvean · 20/05/2021 05:40

www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1124

If you want to know more on what's going on in 🇮🇳

picturesandpickles · 20/05/2021 05:51

Vaccine take up in the affected areas is pretty average. Those in hospital some have had jabs, some have not. Many people have not been offered their jab yet so it can spread easily. Plus this variant appears to spread in the vaccinated too.

It is looking like transmissibility may be slightly lower than feared which would be good, but it definitely transmits faster.

Nothing that is happening with this variant was un-foreseen, just the government lied about the absolute power of vaccines and persist in saying 'vaccinated' after first dose, rather than 'partially vaccinated'.

trying29 · 20/05/2021 06:32

I’ve currently got covid the Indian variant. My partner and I both have it and have both had one jab. It’s running riot through my sons primary school. Out of a year of 60 kids - 16 caught it. Every single school year has been isolating. I don’t know why the media aren’t talking about how young kids are catching it. Initial infection may be mild but who knows how long covid will affect them

picturesandpickles · 20/05/2021 06:35

@trying29

I’ve currently got covid the Indian variant. My partner and I both have it and have both had one jab. It’s running riot through my sons primary school. Out of a year of 60 kids - 16 caught it. Every single school year has been isolating. I don’t know why the media aren’t talking about how young kids are catching it. Initial infection may be mild but who knows how long covid will affect them
Get well soon Flowers

I read that teh speed of transmission is really affecting families as with original covid sometimes it didn;t spread to family members but with this variant it really does.

Great fucking idea to get rid of masks in secondaries, the stupid prats.

HarrietOh · 20/05/2021 06:38

@Mimmommum

If we were to go by what's happening in India, the new variant affects the young more and it's quite severe. Initially India didn't face much serious complications from covid (last year) because the population overall is much younger. But this strain is affecting young as well. I know several perfectly healthy people in their 20s and their 30s who have died from covid. Not through news, but these are relatives/friends of close friends. It's quite bad in India. Everyone is scrambling to get atleast one shot but there isn't enough vaccines.
You know several? Wow. Didn’t think there was many deaths in that age group? As someone in that age group everyone I know who has had it (fit and healthy etc) was barely ill.
HarrietOh · 20/05/2021 06:42

Ah sorry, cross post.

trying29 · 20/05/2021 06:49

Yes that’s what the head at our school has said. When I heard you could still catch COVID having had a jab, I assumed it would be asymptomatic. We quite clearly have symptoms tho

DoubleTweenQueen · 20/05/2021 07:00

@Bluntness100

They think it’s no more severe in fact likely less severe as that’s what normally happens with viruses, the more transmissable the less severe.

The hospital numbers are tiny which would verify that.

That's far too simplistic an assumption (as a former molecular virologist)
Bluntness100 · 20/05/2021 07:02

That's far too simplistic an assumption (as a former molecular virologist)

It might be simplistic. But it’s factual.

CobraKaiRocks · 20/05/2021 07:04

@trying29

I’ve currently got covid the Indian variant. My partner and I both have it and have both had one jab. It’s running riot through my sons primary school. Out of a year of 60 kids - 16 caught it. Every single school year has been isolating. I don’t know why the media aren’t talking about how young kids are catching it. Initial infection may be mild but who knows how long covid will affect them
How do you know you both have the Indian variant ? I wasn’t aware of people being told this - test results merely come through as positive or negative.
DoubleTweenQueen · 20/05/2021 07:07

@Bluntness100

That's far too simplistic an assumption (as a former molecular virologist)

It might be simplistic. But it’s factual.

No, it is a gross generalisation.
ZoBo123 · 20/05/2021 07:16

@trying29

I’ve currently got covid the Indian variant. My partner and I both have it and have both had one jab. It’s running riot through my sons primary school. Out of a year of 60 kids - 16 caught it. Every single school year has been isolating. I don’t know why the media aren’t talking about how young kids are catching it. Initial infection may be mild but who knows how long covid will affect them
I thought they were only checking a sample of positive tests in different areas to see the spread of Indian variant not every positive. Would be good if they did do this and if they provided that information to the person who has tested positive.
OddBoots · 20/05/2021 07:29

We know a bit about the risks to life and this variant seems to carry the same risks as other variants so in that way it is less of a worry to the under 40s. But it is more transmissible so in unvaccinated populations it will spread much faster without the other precautions we have had the past 18 months.

What we don't know or are only just starting to see are the longer term problems including Long Covid but also including the risks to male fertility especially for men in their 30s and 20s. (sources - Link 1, Link 2, Link 3. ) We have no way of knowing if this will be significant or not at this stage so opinions will vary about how careful we need to be.

NotBot · 20/05/2021 07:37

@CobraKaiRocks - people are being informed if their test was sequenced & identified. Not all tests are. There’s been a case in a high school near me, the family were informed.

It’s nonsense you cannot book a test of eligible (36+). You may have to wait a couple weeks but you can book..

Running riot in a school - 16/60..that’s 26%.. not really a riot. The Kent variant did far worse in my DD’s nursery in January. 26/30 children in DD’s pre-school room caught it. Across the nursery, all but one member of staff got it. They were closed for two solid weeks & only partially re-opened for a further two with the lag of staff testing positive & needing to isolate..

There is zero indication it is more serious an illness or that affects younger people more. The vaccines are doing really well against it, which is great news. This panic is exhausting.

TheKeatingFive · 20/05/2021 08:14

So for you to know several of them is quite remarkable.

Oh they’re all on here.

Remember the teacher who said there were ten fatalities at her school?

Tryingtryingandtrying · 20/05/2021 08:29

Don't forget the prospect of long covid in all those primary children! When things are getting better overall there's always Long Covid to fall back on. The government are trying to scare people into taking their vaccine. We are now ar the age group where they are getting vaccinated for the greater good and not for their own personal benefit. So project fear has to be ramped up.

TheKeatingFive · 20/05/2021 08:41

When things are getting better overall there's always Long Covid to fall back on.

So true!

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