Should household members still be isolating?

[BlueEyesWhiteDragon]

DSs friend tested positive on Wednesday via lateral flow test at college. A PCR test confirmed the result. I know this because the mum has told me / the child told DS.

The mum has however asked me to pick her up from work today as her car is in the garage. I said I thought she should be self isolating but apparently everyone at her work is vaccinated (apart from her and 1 early 20s chap) so she doesn't need to. Her manager is happy for her to go in and she is happy to go in so she has done.

I've said I'm not sure how I feel about picking her up - not because I'm particularly worried about covid but because I'm ultimately a rule follower and I think she should be at home if that's what the law says. She could very easily work from home but is obviously choosing not to.

We've had a bit of a spat because I said I couldn't find anything saying self-isolation no longer applies, and she hung up on me.

So I was just wondering if it has ended and its me or if she's misinterpreted somewhere.

No ended afaik

Christ no wonder we're in such a mess.
I wouldn't give her a lift either.

All household still isolates if one person has confirmed covid. At least that was the rule a month ago when it happened in our house and I haven't seen any change in policy yet.

All isolate regardless of vaccine status.

You can still catch it and pass it on even if vaccinated!

I wonder how her car got to the garage? And how she plans to collect it? It's not solely about being at work, it's all the other things she plans to do as well.

Well, it would be prime time for her to infect you, then you would have to self isolate for 2 weeks and your family also. Regardless of rules and whether you are concerned about catching it from a helath perspective, I think she's being pretty selfish asking for a lift.

She’s totally in the wrong and sounds like a right idiot

Of course it hadn't ended and it's not up to her workplace. She's going around the community infecting people. I haven't suggested reporting anyone this whole year, but I'd be considering it with her.

She’s an idiot and should be isolating.

I wouldn't have picked her up. And I would judge. People just can't make up their own rules.

Cheers. That's what I thought.

However she has messaged to say if I don't give her a lift she'll have to catch the bus so if I am so worried I should give her a lift .....

Tbh I'm just bloody cross with her and her employer !!

Just say she shouldn't be going into work so then she won't have to get the bus
If this is in any of the areas where there is an uptick of the Indian variant she is being doubly daft!

If you give her a lift and then she tests positive you will also have to isolate. I wouldn't want to risk that if it were me. She legally needs to isolate. I'd be calling track and trace and reporting her, I usually don't care about rule breaking but not isolating is a step too far for me.

What a selfish woman. Report her if you can.

Yanbu OP. Things like these are the reason why we're never out of this mess. And yes definitely would consider reporting her and her workplace!

No wonder we are in this mess. She could be fined £1,000 and her place of work £10,000 for allowing her to go to work. I’d be reporting her on this occasion as she’s really putting people at risk.

I genuinely can't believe this is real! Surely people can't be that stupid??

She is incredibly selfish to ask you for a lift, or indeed to be out and about at all. You are right to say no, and actually, I would consider reporting her because she is putting others at risk.

You are right, she is wrong.

But - this isn’t the first time I’ve heard this. My friend was in work earlier this month when her DH and teens had Covid. They asked her to take a LFT and go in if negative as they were short staffed. She’s a teacher.

Absolutely ridiculous, does she not know the rules by now. Vaccinated or not I wouldn’t be happy if someone who could potentially catch covid from her son came into work when she should be isolating and now says she will have to catch a bus, unbelievable.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

Here's her section:

If you live in the same household as someone with COVID-19

Stay at home and self-isolate. Do not go to work, school, or public areas and do not use public transport or taxis.

Your isolation period includes the day the first person in your household’s symptoms started (or the day their test was taken if they did not have symptoms) and the next 10 full days. This means that if, for example, your 10 day isolation period starts on the 15th of the month, your isolation period ends at 23:59 hrs on the 25th and you can return to your normal routine.

If you do not have symptoms of COVID-19 yourself, you do not need a PCR test unless you develop COVID-19 symptoms or if you are asked to do so by NHS Test and Trace, your local council or a health professional. If you are regularly taking part in asymptomatic testing using LFD tests, you can continue to do so as long as these tests are taken at home. Do not leave your house during your self-isolation period to take part in an assisted asymptomatic testing programme. If for any reason you have a negative test result during your 10 day isolation period, you must continue to self-isolate Even if you don’t have symptoms, you could still become infectious and pass the infection on to others. Stay at home for the full 10 days to avoid putting others at risk. If you develop symptoms while you are isolating, arrange to have a COVID-19 PCR test. If your test result is positive, follow the advice for people with COVID-19 to stay at home and start a further full 10 day isolation period. This begins when your symptoms started, regardless of where you are in your original 10 day isolation period. This means that your total isolation period will be longer than 10 days.

If other household members develop symptoms during this period, you do not need to isolate for longer than 10 days.

If you are identified as a contact and asked to self-isolate by NHS Test and Trace, including by the NHS COVID-19 app you may be entitled to a payment of £500 from your local authority under the Test and Trace Support Payment scheme. If you are the parent or guardian of a child who has been told to self-isolate you may also be entitled to this payment.

Failure to comply with self-isolation may result in a fine, starting from £1,000. Parents or guardians are legally responsible for ensuring that anyone under 18 self-isolates if they test positive for COVID-19 and are contacted by NHS Test and Trace and told to self-isolate.

I’m not up for reporting people generally but this is ridiculous. Yes she should be isolating and you’d be a fool to let her get in a car with you (I know you’re not but she clearly thinks you are!).

I wonder if contacting T&T/119 are a ‘softer’ way of alerting someone she’s merrily wandering around.