Anyone else noticed a difference between...

[Onceuponatime1818]

Those who continued going out to work throughout this pandemic and those who worked from home?

My friends are pretty split 50/50 and those that still used public transport to work and had to go into work seem to be enjoying the news freedoms way more than those who stayed home. Their kids are back at groups like gymnastics and swimming. Those who worked from home seem to still be staying home and their kids just go to school and back.

Anyone else noticed this?

The government have scared so many people shitless how’ are they going to support those people to get back to normality?

I think the fear agenda put across by both government and media has massively backfired in that some people are scared to go out (and spend) and some actually realised that they just dont want to.

Massive own goal. I expect there will be narrative soon that people who are not out spending money will be "selfish" and "not doing their bit"

As someone posted in another thread when you turn on the fear tap how do you turn it off again?

I've worked out of home throughout and I am a bit worried about things opening up again at the same time as the variant hits. It was really horrible going to work on the bus in January when so many people were dying and hardly anyone was vaccinated.

I hope they're right that the vaccines work against it but apparently there are people in hospital now who have had both doses. So yeah I'm a bit worried about people who aren't used to being out and about being less cautious and causing the new variant to spread if the vaccines don't work against it. At least in January there were fewer people around.

No I haven't noticed that. DH has WFH throughout as shielding. I was on furlough during part of Lockdown 1 and WOH since.
Everyone I know whether wfh or woh seem to be being sensible and restarting things as allowed. Well apart from the 2 kW family who have bent the rules all the way through but their choice.

hope they're right that the vaccines work against it but apparently there are people in hospital now who have had both doses.

Where have you read that?

BBC was reporting most people in Bolton in hospital have been offered the vaccine but haven’t had it yet as decided not to

Here:

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/covid-jabs-almost-certainly-less-24114680

Six people in hospital who have been vaccinated.

That isn't the latest data suzi. Latest data shows that there is early confidence it is effective.

From what I read, they could only scare up 1 person who’s been double vaxxed and then hospitalised. And even then it wasn’t clear how long after the 2nd jab it happened.

I think it's the opposite. We've ben WFH since last March and we can't wait to get out and about.
As soon as restrictions have eased we've made full use of what we can!
We've got loads booked over then next couple of weeks and a number of UK holidays. Get me out there!!!!

I think it's just a minority that belong to either of OPs 2 groups...... majority are somewhere in between. Also, some may just prefer a less hectic life?

So they're not in hospital then?

Five people who have had one jab hospitalised in Bolton too. And one person who's had two jabs. Although that one person is apparently "frail" according to Hancock so fuck em eh:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57134181

Although that one person is apparently "frail" according to Hancock so fuck em eh

Well no one thought vaccines would wipe out illness entirely. They don’t for lots of other diseases that we don’t give too much of a shit about.

One fully vaxxed person in hospital is not reason for panic stations. Sounds like the government is doing the right thing be expediting second doses.

I’m stuck working from home and I’m desperate to get out!

Two fully vaccinated in hospital and ten partially vaccinated. I just hope it doesn't end up like December when all the wfh people came out and went a bit crackers and then fucked off back indoors again leaving the rest of us having to go to work while waking up to a 2000 a day death toll every day.

@SuziQuatrosFatNan

Two fully vaccinated in hospital and ten partially vaccinated. I just hope it doesn't end up like December when all the wfh people came out and went a bit crackers and then fucked off back indoors again leaving the rest of us having to go to work while waking up to a 2000 a day death toll every day.

You know we haven’t chosen to WFH right? I’d do anything to be out working and actually be able to do my job properly!

BonnieDundee What fear agenda would that be? From a government that has consistently acted too little too late and consequently given us one of the highest death rates in the world a d the greatest economic damage. Seems like there wasn’t enough “fear” though I have to admit my friends and family in Asia, Australia and New Zealand are not experiencing any fear even the ones working in hospitals (exciles from an NHS after already experiencing the deterioration in working conditions and the care they could deliver.

Australia are telling their citizens it will be 2024 before they can travel here or we can travel there. Does the “fear” correspond to that level of of leper status?

@Emilyontmoor

"Don't kill granny"

"Look them in the eye"

"Act like you've got it"

"4K deaths a day by christmas"

mbncnews.com/government-scientific-advisors-admit-they-used-totalitarian-fear-tactics-to-control-people-during-pandemic/

We were all wfh and not key workers. Totally desperate to get out as soon as possible and join in with everything.
But also agree that some things we used to do now just seem too much hassle so we have jettisoned. Main one is hosting weekend play dates. Just means we never get any family time so i prefer not to do it and also it not fair on other family members who might want to lounge in front of sofa.

@Emilyontmoor
These few examples came straight to my mind:

“Can you look the bus driver in the eye and tell them this is an essential journey”

Signs everywhere on the motorway “stay home; save lives”

And that super creepy advert where that lady visits her gran and they show covid on her hands and everything she touches in the grans house turns green

For me it's been a case of thinking it wouldn't make sense to catch the virus by doing something I don't need to... especially now when the vaccine will finally start protecting me soon. I was actually WFH even pre-covid by choice.

I've attended some appointments in person since April and used public transport again, though. It's been a risks vs benefit assessment in those cases, and avoiding rush hour.

As for spending and keeping the economy going, I've done lots of online shopping throughout and especially supported smaller businesses, including some that had to close their high street shops. Also ordered weekly take aways and Deliveroo from a nearby bakery, so me staying at home is not really having a negative impact on the economy!

Yeah the 4000 deaths a day was obviously nonsense. It was only 2000 a day.

Most people I know who were either working in NHS services deemed to be crisis type services so continuing during the whole thing, or who took redeployment to the Covid wards had it themselves very early on or got their heads around the risks quite early. Pretty much everyone I know who has had it contracted it via working in the NHS (although I know a lot of NHS workers) or via family members who do so.

I had to play it as very gentle and balanced with the risks from quite early on as DD2 got very anxious about everything - so we pitched distancing from people and giving them room as being polite because other people had reasons they were worried about the virus and just being the kind thing to do, and that it wasn't really dangerous to kids and we really did heavily avoid broadcast TV at the point where we were in peak "don't kill granny" territory. Then we started playing spot the social distancing camera angles with TV shows, and those moments where TV show hosts obviously got yelled at down their earpieces that they were getting a bit too close and moved back away - I've tried to get them to see some of the daftness in it all. We've also thought about how Horrible Histories are going to cover the year everyone went a bit barmy and bought all the bog roll... just trying to keep the anxiety levels in perspective for her - it's helped a lot.

The ones who I see who are still being melodramatic jumping off pavements into the path of cars to avoid people and disinfecting shopping - generally do have a bit too much time on their hands to overthink anything and everything and are naturally very anxious anyway. Seen a fair few kids who are now veering towards school refusal from the disruption and the changes to their school environment too.