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Local lockdowns

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Sadless · 12/05/2021 22:50

What are the chances of local lockdowns for places like Bolton and Blackburn. I live not to far away from both these and a local college recently shut because of cases of the Indian varient.
Does any one think if it doesn't improve in these areas they could put these places in lockdown and would it be the towns or the whole of Lancashire.

Thanks
Sal

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Puttingouthefirewithgasoline · 13/05/2021 22:39

Can't they do better translations and stuff of the vaccines? What's the point of opening up vaccines if no one will take it.

Many communities have many who don't speak English, how to reach them?
And if they are illegal, even less likely to come forward for fear of being found out.

Fixitup2 · 13/05/2021 22:43

@Puttingouthefirewithgasoline

Can't they do better translations and stuff of the vaccines? What's the point of opening up vaccines if no one will take it.

Many communities have many who don't speak English, how to reach them?
And if they are illegal, even less likely to come forward for fear of being found out.

There’s been numerous videos about the vaccine in Urdu/punjabi but some of the areas in Bolton has large African populations, Eastern European, Arab countries and Asian populations. A lot of refugees too. I’ve worked there in the past and needed different interpreters all the time. Some languages I’d never heard of, some you’d get an interpreter then it’d be a really specific dialect. There was also a lot of movement so people moving on regularly to different towns etc. It’s a really tough area.
Puttingouthefirewithgasoline · 13/05/2021 22:48

I'm just thinking of the micro cosm of my street, one lady, zero English, been here for decades, family and has to rely on her husband to relay stuff.
It makes her extremely vulnerable.
And her children actually, esp in lower socio eccomic area.

I'm wondering how on earth she would get the vaccine? If her husband didn't tell her.

Then there is mixed hmo, Eastern European and Italian a again between them, not sure there is any English and I highly doubt no doctors surgery at all.

They would have to rely on whoever employs them I guess?
They won't be able to access the vaccine, they are not registered anywhere.

Puttingouthefirewithgasoline · 13/05/2021 22:49

Fix and what is the nature of the translation I wonder, had it tackled the suspicions..

Fixitup2 · 13/05/2021 22:52

A lot of the Urdu/punjabi was done by imams and local GP’s on social media. But again in these areas not everyone has access. Also posters are bilingual. There’s a lot of the GP’s in that area who are bilingual but again mainly Urdu/punjabi.

MercyBooth · 13/05/2021 23:30

@Mumblechum0

Newsnight had a good segment and discussion over the reasons for refusal. In some cases its due to decades of inequality and lack of trust in the Government
You reap what you sow.
Here is the segment and discussion.
www.youtube.com/watch?at_custom4=F7A78DEA-6239-11EB-9933-AAFB15F31EAE&at_custom2=twitter&at_custom3=%40BBCNewsnight&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_medium=custom7&at_campaign=64&v=PpSpsKiGidk&feature=youtu.be

Dr Annabel Sowemimo makes the points about inequality and how people have got to that way of thinking.

MercyBooth · 14/05/2021 01:47

speaking of phones and being online.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/12/exclusive-gps-told-stop-seeing-patients-face-to-face/

Cheers for locking down and all the sacrifices you made

Mumblechum0 · 14/05/2021 11:20

@mercybooth Just watched your youtube link to try to understand why the people in Tower Hamlets are reluctant.

"I'm not taking the vaccine, it's to eliminate the people"

"my kids told me not to take it, I will die"

Okaaay.

I guess I'm just in a bubble of educated, professional people (not all white by any means, my dh is Nigerian), who wouldn't recognise the views of the people in those areas.

It's so sad that the new variant is increasing in the areas where people are more afraid than the vaccine than getting Covid.

SlipperyLizard · 14/05/2021 11:28

@Fixitup2

I’m not Bolton but Manchester and sometimes work in Bolton. I’ll be protesting if there’s a local lockdown. This is torture. The cause of this is the government and their lax travel rules, lack of monitoring of isolation and shit case tracing. Yet they expect the public to continue to pay for their incompetence. I won’t have it. The Bolton areas affected are very vulnerable. Very deprived, low education attainment, poor health of many and massive overcrowding. It’s no wonder it’s spreading so quickly but there’s such a lack of trust in the government too. London has more of the indian variant than Bolton and yet Bolton has been in the news all week.
I agree, I live in greater Manchester and we’ve sacrificed so much through the local restrictions and tiers - only for the government to fail to restrict importation of new variants by keeping a leaky border without hotel quarantine for all.

I’m seriously cross that government incompetence is risking everything we’ve sacrificed, and that the North will bear the brunt again.

If the tier system worked, we wouldn’t have ended up with the Kent variant being dominant, causing the whole country to go into lockdown.

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