Germany will allow AZ to all ages group

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Interesting as the uk may consider restricting AZ to over 40 at the same time.

From sky live news feed

18:22

Germany to allow AstraZeneca jab to be given to adults of all ages

Germany will allow AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine to be given to adults of all ages, following blood clot concerns.

The country is reversing a previous decision that restricted the jab to people who are over 60 years old, health minister Jens Spahn said today.

Mr Spahn also said Germany aimed to offer 12 to 18-year-olds a vaccine by the end of August, provided regulators give approval for the Pfizer shot for that age group.

Officials previously agreed unanimously to only give the jab to people aged 60 or older, unless they are at high risk from COVID-19 or are health workers, following a recommendation from the country's independent vaccine expert panel.

Pic: Associated Press

Yes I read this and was suprised

You mean below 40s?
And surprised. ... wanna see what other counties do after this. I’m Spanish and Spain has followed what Germany / France do. They’re moving to below 60s now and have refused many times to provide az. Let’s see whether they change their minds

Spain 🇪🇸 can't seem to decide what it wants to do as one area said they have 150k surplus vaccines due to age restrictions.
Spain also want to increase time between doses to 16 weeks which goes against ema.
Their covid rates are really high per 100k.
I think maybe if covid rates so high the vaccine seems less risky.

www.reuters.com/world/europe/spain-extend-gap-between-astrazeneca-doses-16-weeks-2021-04-30/

Is this because cases are rising in Germany?

@3asAbird could be thats what they said here all countries will have different factors and numbers etc may be one if them
The uk has 10-12 weeks between and so far it seems to be working I think and we have given a lot of first doses because of it
I think we only did this do to our high numbers at the time

@3asAbird

Spain 🇪🇸 can't seem to decide what it wants to do as one area said they have 150k surplus vaccines due to age restrictions. Spain also want to increase time between doses to 16 weeks which goes against ema. Their covid rates are really high per 100k. I think maybe if covid rates so high the vaccine seems less risky.

Spain doesn’t want to increase to 16 weeks. My parents both have been contacted for their second week within 12 weeks. There is young people tho with 1 dose of az who are due their second and will recieve pfizer / moderna. And they’re awaiting the results from some research in Spain to make their decision , this will be end of may. But not everyone with az will have their 2nd az in 16 weeks

Also let’s remember that pfizer / moderna recommend 21-28 days but uk back in January decided to go for 12 weeks. There was no research about it (it’s turned out ok but could have gone the other way)

I guess they are desperate because of how fast cases are rising. There comes a point when any jab is lower risk than Covid is.

@Donitta

I guess they are desperate because of how fast cases are rising. There comes a point when any jab is lower risk than Covid is.

Germana numbers whilst still High are going down now

Concerns were raised, concerns were followed up, in the mean time precautions were taken, after follow up results are in precautions are lifted again.
A normal course of events.

All trough the introduction of the vaccines people moaned that "they were not tested enough" - now they moan for the opposite.

(And the supply of AZ is very low, so the number of people getting it is low to.)

I’ve been upset reading stories of people abroad and in the UK walking out on realising the vaccine was the AZ. This might give more confidence.

Germany has (completely) driven their vaccine programme against the wall... That's the problem.
I could go on and on and on...

Freind of a freind lives Germany if she wanted az may if she wanted anything else September. She has said yes az but husband said no he wait for pfizer.
Which works if you not in grips 3rd wave and high case numbers.
Maybe Germany has short supply of moderna or pfizer.
Not sure if Johnson and Johnson delivered yet.
My restricting, pausing flipflooping over age they confused people and put people off az.

Also like USA its federalist states all doing thier own thing.

ROI is now more or less saying the same thing.

Because the alternative is delaying the vaccine rollout (or vaxxing younger people before older people) and its finally sunk in that this would be stupid.

Interesting as the uk may consider restricting AZ to over 40 at the same time.

Everyone’s ending up in the same place though, they’ve just come from different directions. AZ will be available to under 40s who want it and would prefer not to wait for an alternative. Sensible.

Having created a system of privileges for those who have been vaccinated, this seems like an almost inevitable decision (not saying it’s wrong, but just there are social considerations for why they’re opening up AZ to younger people now).

It isn't surprising Germany has made this move. When they set the age limit because of clots they were very clear it may not be a permanent thing. They were slightly behind us in vaccinating age ranges. So had time and supply to play with until they go to the under 60s properly.

They now can't afford to not continue using AZ. Cases levels mean the risk of covid out weighs the risk of clots. We have worked out a treatment for the clots. So a bit less serious in most cases.

Germany are investing Pfizer and Moderna for a heart issue. So need a fall back vaccine if that turns out problematic. Janssen and Sputnik have the same clot issues as AZ. So they could hardly use them but claim AZ was a risk.

@PurplePumpkinDream

I’ve been upset reading stories of people abroad and in the UK walking out on realising the vaccine was the AZ. This might give more confidence.

Yep they are idiots. If you want a vaccine take any of them and don't waste appointments. If you are worried about risks don't get vaccinated they all have very very low risks but still risks. Same as side effects etc. All of them are reported to have various side effects. Most people have none or very mild ones but some don't. It doesn't matter which vaccine again.