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Chile having another strict lockdown even though 50% are vaccinated

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ssd · 04/05/2021 10:01

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/mar/28/chile-coronavirus-lockdowns-vaccination-success

This is worrying. I think we need to stop holidays abroad for this year and just holiday here.

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Ilikewinter · 04/05/2021 10:09

That story is from 28th March, is their situation still the same today?.

Foxglovesandprimroses · 04/05/2021 10:10

That article's 5 weeks old.

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 04/05/2021 10:12

Oh do shut up with your scaremongering.

bootlebumtrinketti · 04/05/2021 10:13

Chile bought a Chinese vaccine that didn't work. So not comparable to uk.

HolmeH · 04/05/2021 10:14

Chile also used a poor vaccine & opened up everything after just one dose - see below. It’s had a big impact. We are doing things very differently. The vast, vast majority of the vulnerable will be double vaccinated by end June.

www.wsj.com/articles/first-dose-of-chinese-covid-19-vaccine-offers-little-protection-chile-learns-11618775502

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 04/05/2021 10:20

The following is from a more recent BBC News article:

What went wrong?
Critics have accused the Piñera government of getting caught up in triumphalism over the vaccine rollout and of having loosened coronavirus restrictions too fast.

Like governments across the world, ministers here faced difficult choices.

Chile's borders had been closed - bar for a few exceptions - from March to November 2020. But after a strict lockdown had driven the rolling seven-day average down to 1,300 cases in November, the decision was taken to reopen them, including to international tourists.

Chileans were also given special holiday permits to travel more freely around the country during the southern hemisphere summer holidays after some experts argued it was important for people's mental health.

Restaurants, shops, and holiday resorts were opened up to kickstart the faltering economy.

Fast, but not in time for the holidays
And while the vaccination rollout has indeed been fast, it only started in late December, with front-line health care workers, those over 90, and teachers first in line.

So the vast majority of Chileans would not yet have been vaccinated by the time they met up with relatives and friends for their summer holidays in January and February.

Chile's main holiday season is in January and February
Add to that the spread of new, more easily transmittable variants of the virus such as the P.1 variant, which is thought to have emerged in Brazil's Amazonas state in November.

What is the Brazil variant and do vaccines work against it?
Brazil variant drives South America Covid surge
Covid map: Where are cases the highest?
Dr Susan Bueno, a professor of immunology from the Pontifical Catholic University, says the recent surge is "a multi-factor issue", but that she thinks the new variants are having a "huge impact".

She says the message about how to prevent contagion, such as wearing masks and washing your hands, was also somewhat neglected during the summer months in Chile. That, she explains, "is probably one of the causes of the outbreaks we are seeing now".

CoronaVac confusion
There is also confusion about how the vaccine that the vast majority in the country has received works, Prof Bueno adds. More than 93% of the doses administered in Chile so far have been CoronaVac, produced by the Beijing-based biopharmaceutical company Sinovac.

Data on the efficacy of the CoronaVac vaccine is varied. Brazilian trials suggested an efficacy rate of around 50.4% but results from late-stage trials in Indonesia and Turkey suggested a much higher rate - between 65% and 83%.

What do we know about China's Covid-19 vaccines?
China official says local vaccine efficacy is low
A study published by the University of Chile last week (in Spanish) looked at the level of protection the vaccine offered after the first and the second doses.

It suggested CoronaVac was 56.5% effective in protecting people against infection two weeks after they had received their second dose, but the figure was only 3% in the timespan between the first and second doses.

This may give a key clue as to why cases may still be on the rise in Chile, where more than 7.6 million people have received the first jab, but the number of those who have had both the first and second doses is much lower.

amicissimma · 04/05/2021 10:20

Why bring this up now? The graph in the article shows death rates falling even by the end of March. Maybe the effect of immunity developing from the vaccines, no one claims that it is immediate.

Reuters reports the Chilean Covid tide turned by mid-April.

IrmaFayLear · 04/05/2021 10:22

This OP is determined that we are doomed. We may well be doomed - who knows? But constantly trying to scare everyone is very selfish.

ssd · 04/05/2021 10:42

Thanks for that more recent information @JesusInTheCabbageVan, i couldnt find anything more recent online. And i forgot their holiday season is different to ours as well.

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ssd · 04/05/2021 10:44

@IrmaFayLear

This OP is determined that we are doomed. We may well be doomed - who knows? But constantly trying to scare everyone is very selfish.
Im trying to have a discussion based on that article i read. If you don't want to discuss it, fine by me. Other posters have given a more balanced view, which I'm grateful for.
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chocolatesaltyballs22 · 04/05/2021 11:08

OP it's not helpful to post scare-mongering click-baity type post titles like this. Like people don't already have enough to worry about. Would strongly suggest that you check out your facts before you start scare-mongering.

IrmaFayLear · 04/05/2021 16:37

But OP you are a repeat repeat repeat offender, not just someone “trying to have a discussion” Hmm

User1234123 · 04/05/2021 16:47

As stated above.

  • Old article
  • They opened up way too quickly before vaccines could really settle in and do what they're supposed to do.
  • Used what is regarded by many to be a lesser vaccine

I'll be holidaying abroad thanks.

LondonWFuck · 04/05/2021 16:49

Why would you not check the date of an article before posting it?

OliveTree75 · 04/05/2021 16:55

FgsHmm

CaveMum · 04/05/2021 19:08

This is a useful Twitter thread about claims around what is happening in Chile: twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1389617547935420423?s=21

tobee · 04/05/2021 20:49

Stop now!

So many people are pushing other people's mental health even further down the toilet than it's been by the actual crisis has already done.

It's so irresponsible!

tobee · 04/05/2021 20:53

Sorry for poor proof reading on my post

BelleBlueBell · 04/05/2021 21:00

Why am I not surprised that you could find a we're all dooooomed article from weeks ago yet fail to find all the analysis on how and why the situation in Chile arose.

Has your google got a special setting for bad news negative results only?

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