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Briefing : vaccines work

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StealthPolarBear · 28/04/2021 17:09

No surprise but excellent to have it confirmed.
Even after one dose they also heavily reduce transmission, as well as reducing risk of disease and death for the individual.
Wonderful news, so grateful to the scientists, academics and the NHS.

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Anon778833 · 28/04/2021 17:09

Great news.

Overthebow · 28/04/2021 17:15

Great news. Hopefully as Mandy people have it as possible so we can cut transmission and get back to normal life.

Overthebow · 28/04/2021 17:16

Many not Mandy

Anon778833 · 28/04/2021 17:18

I do think that the vaccine must be a big factor in why the transmission rate has fallen so much.

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StealthPolarBear · 28/04/2021 17:18

Poor mandy. With a name like that she must be eligible for a vaccine?

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StealthPolarBear · 28/04/2021 17:21

Excellent explaining by van tam of why the % reduction in transmission are likely to be on the cautious side. Reality likely to be better

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StealthPolarBear · 28/04/2021 17:47

Cases no longer a precursor to inevitable hospitalisations and deaths.
Well said.

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IcedPurple · 28/04/2021 17:48

This has to be the most optimistic press conference yet. It's really quite upbeat, which is great to see.

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StealthPolarBear · 28/04/2021 17:55

Definitely. With a lot of deflecting relating to soft furnishings.

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Emma2021 · 28/04/2021 20:46

They were asked over a week ago how many people end up in hospital when they've had the first jab for at least 4 weeks, end up in hospital with covid that is.

A few million i think have had the two doses of Pifzer and even AZ so where are these figures as they will instill more confidence.

What other important bits did they say?

Anyhting re a medicines cabinet that boris talked about a few weeks ago that will be givine to those getting covid so they can take the meds ealy on and hopefully avoid hospital?

MarshaBradyo · 28/04/2021 20:47

Ah I missed it

Sounds good

Loopylou555 · 28/04/2021 20:52

@Emma2021 sage published that data last week, I was surprised they didn't make more of it in the news, but this is what they said

'Sage member Professor Calum Semple explained that of the 74,405 people hospitalised over the period, around 2,000 had received at least one dose of the vaccine. Of those, only 32 had received a vaccine dose more than three weeks before their symptoms began, suggesting a sharp drop-off in serious illness as it reaches its full effect.'

GiveMeTulipsfromAmsterdam · 28/04/2021 23:28

Yep they work as history has said with previous vaccines.

Sadly we live in a society that has forgotten that some diseases were either irradicated or reduced in number.....and the stupid amongst us share anti vax shit and conspiracy bollocks 😕..... you know the sort...do ur own research dopes that follow YouTube 🤔

GiveMeTulipsfromAmsterdam · 28/04/2021 23:29

[quote Loopylou555]@Emma2021 sage published that data last week, I was surprised they didn't make more of it in the news, but this is what they said

'Sage member Professor Calum Semple explained that of the 74,405 people hospitalised over the period, around 2,000 had received at least one dose of the vaccine. Of those, only 32 had received a vaccine dose more than three weeks before their symptoms began, suggesting a sharp drop-off in serious illness as it reaches its full effect.'[/quote]
Indeed

Frequentflier · 28/04/2021 23:32

The thing is it doesn't matter how many times they say this, someone on here will argue that they dont need to take the vaccine because it does not stop transmission. This has been repeated on every thread.

Tealightsandd · 28/04/2021 23:51

It's good news. Except that I'm concerned about the vulnerable in places like London, where vaccine take up has been lower (and the frontline of new variants because of the open borders and Heathrow).

As vaccines don't give 100% protection and might be less effective in the vulnerable, there's a need for widespread take up - to give herd immunity protection, through reduced transmission.

Perhaps the millions of vulnerable Londoners will need to rely on the drug treatments being worked on?

GiveMeNovocain · 28/04/2021 23:55

I don't know why we ever doubted it. I certainly didn't. The messaging around vaccination has been much too negative.

Tealightsandd · 28/04/2021 23:59

Of course few people care about Londoners so heaven help the vulnerable there. Fingers crossed for them that the drug treatments prove successful and can be available soon (if vaccine take up continued to be low theree).

Torvean · 29/04/2021 03:01

There's proof that some vaccines do reduce transmission, reduce hospital admissions and reduce severity of Covid if caught.

It would be nice if ppl will also remember to thank the ppl that sat through vaccine trial without whom the vaccines would still be in a lab.

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StealthPolarBear · 29/04/2021 06:50

@Frequentflier

The thing is it doesn't matter how many times they say this, someone on here will argue that they dont need to take the vaccine because it does not stop transmission. This has been repeated on every thread.
Yes definitely. Drove me mad. Plus the mix up of no evidence yet being assumed to be the same as proof that vaccines don't work made me tear my hair out. Thanks to the pp who reminded me I should have thanked the individuals on the vaccine trials, absolutely. I work with one of them and have thanked her personally but am grateful to them all.
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MarshaBradyo · 29/04/2021 07:55

The site is fairly unbearable with vaccine negativity atm but I’m very grateful to people in trials

To everyone who’s made vaccines possible and work really

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