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Saying no to the vacccine

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aibusux2u · 22/04/2021 22:06

I am really worried about having AZ because I am female, have migraines with aura, and have platelets at the low end of normal.
My GP advised a mass vaccination centre in the hope they might have an alternative vaccine, so I booked for a few days from now but I can't be sure what vaccine it will be until the day.
I don't know what to do. I don't want tha appointment to ho to waste but I don't think i am brave enough for AZ.
I asked an online doctor in the US who said to avoid AZ and wait. Which surprised me as even i know the risk is low.
And it's not even as if anyone can be sure of an alternative jab later on.
I have health anxiety and this is not AIBU so please be kind and understand that I am trying to do the right thing.

OP posts:

Cookerhood · 23/04/2021 08:33

Surely if your GP thought you should have an alternative he should help you find one? Our local GP operates their vaccine programme out of a local cottage hospital (a hub with other HPs). This week they had Pfizer because they were doing 2nd vaccinations so it had to be Pfizer. The same must be happening locally to you.
(On the other hand it is very low risk, and yes, ignore an online US doctor!)

RedcurrantPuff · 23/04/2021 08:35

Who was the online doc? I’d take that with a pinch of salt.

I bet the same problems are going to be there for all the vaccines tbh when more data is known. It’s already 2 linked to blood clots

MrBond · 23/04/2021 08:39

@Waxonwaxoff0

I'm reluctant to have AZ too. I've got no health issues but I'm a 30 year old woman, it's difficult being on the cusp as AZ is not recommended for someone just a year younger than me. I feel like my risk from Covid is surely more similar to a 29 year old than a 39 year old.

I'm hoping that by the time it's my turn we will have more info.

Same here, but I just got an invite (apparently our areas have played an absolute blinder and vaccinated all the over 40s already) and now don't know what to do for best. DH is going for his.

Whatisthisfuckery · 23/04/2021 08:39

You are free to say no at any point, so if it’s AZ then you can decline. You don’t have to feel guilty about it, because if you have it out of guilt then it’s coerced, and that is very bad indeed.

There are lots on MN who would drag you to the vaccination in chains and inject you kicking and screaming, or lock you in an sealed cupboard untill you break and get the vaccine, but in reality they are idiots and you aren’t obliged to get it at all if you don’t want to. If it was going to be a compulsory thing for places and events in this country then we would have been told one way or the other by now, and quite frankly the public won’t have it. They’re only being vague so people get it out of fear, but honestly, you don’t have to get it at all, and you’re free to say no at any point, even the point where the needle tip is a millimetre away from your arm, so don’t worry.

Springersrock · 23/04/2021 09:11

Are you not supposed to have AZ if you have low platelets?

I don’t know if it’s just low platelets.

I have a weird thing that whenever I have a virus, my platelets drop - I’m extremely fatigued, absolutely covered in tiny bruises, blood shot eyes, blood in my urine, etc. I was happy to go for the AZ at our local hub but given the type of blood clotting issues with AZ my GP wanted me to have Pfizer.

Sunshinegirl82 · 23/04/2021 09:38

I'm very pro vaccine and would happily have AZ if offered (I am 38) but I completely understand your concern.

I would see if you could speak to a different GP and see if they've got any ideas of how to get you Pfizer or Moderna.

Alternatively, I'd just book it and turn up and if it's AZ explain your dr has advised you'll have something else and can you rebook for another day. I wouldn't feel bad about it, if your GP can't arrange an alternative then you can only work with the system that there is!

PurpleWh1teGreen · 23/04/2021 10:01

OP not only is your GP the best person to talk to about your individual risks and concerns, they will also know where in your local area you need to go for Pfizer or Moderna if you agree that is the right option for you and can facilitate the appointment.

Buzzinwithbez · 23/04/2021 10:27

"All of this doing it to protect others is nonsense anyway as you can still transmit covid after having the jab."

"But if the person you give it to has been vaccinated she/he will only suffer mild symptoms, irrespective of age or health condition.
"

So the important thing is that the person who wants to have it, has been able to?

If you can still be vaccinated and transmit it, you're only protecting yourself?
Possibly even Manning you more likely to be an asymptomatic carrier?

Sunshinegirl82 · 23/04/2021 11:42

It's now widely accepted that all the vaccines reduce transmission significantly (by about 70%) so it absolutely is the case that having the vaccine will protect others around you and contribute to herd immunity at a population level.

Sunshinegirl82 · 23/04/2021 11:44

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/yes-vaccines-block-most-transmission-of-covid-19?cmpid=int org=ngp::inttmc=website::int src=ngp::inttcmp=amp::int add=ampp_readtherest

SeaTurtles92 · 23/04/2021 11:47

Just phone on the day of your appointment. If they don't answer just go to it and if it's AZ then don't have it. They won't mind.

I had mine at a pharmacy so managed to find out which one I was getting before I went. I had AZ. This was before everything was said about it but due my second AZ in May.

hazandduck · 23/04/2021 11:52

Same as OP and previous posters, migraine with aura and never been allowed to take the contraceptive pill. Family also have history of strokes young. We are right to be a bit cautious I think. I have decided I won’t have AZ. However, I was all for Pfizer but one of my best friends had it last week and has had a severe reaction which has also made me feel wobbly! It’s a scary time all round.

DeclineandFall · 23/04/2021 12:01

The low platelet might be an issue the migraine with aura probably not. The sort of rare clots they are seeing with the vaccines aren't the same as normal clots.
Covid causes clots in a much higher incidence so if you feel there is a history of stroke or clots in the family or feel you are more at risk I'd be chasing another sort of vaccine via your GP asap.

Frownette · 23/04/2021 12:51

@Springersrock I've got my doctor soon about my platelets so I'll ask her then, if she says anything of interest about AZ I'll post :)

oldegg123 · 23/04/2021 13:01

@aibusux2u

Migraine with aura does not increase your risk of a CVST (the complication associated with vaccination). It does however increase your risk of other blood clot related issues, which is even more reason to get vaccinated as COVID is known to cause these issues.

I'm very surprised your GP gave you that advice regarding migraine with aura, as it goes against the guidance issued by both the National Migraine Centre and the Migraine Trust, the two biggest migraine advisory groups in the UK

twitter.com/NatMigraineCtr/status/1381899322162352128/photo/1

Sloelydoesit · 23/04/2021 18:56

When you go for AZ they ask you about previous blood clotting issues. It then gets referred to the doctor on site. I had that happen yesterday and when I told them my history they just told me I couldn't have it and rebooked me for Moderna

MoonlightFlitwick · 24/04/2021 08:28

@Millie2008 I have migraine with aura and asked my GP if that put me at increased risk and she didn't think so

Abraxan · 24/04/2021 08:37

@Schrutesbeets

You're under no obligation to be vaccinated OP. Are you in an at risk category for Covid? Elderly, frail, underlying health issues or obese? If you wouldn't have considered getting the flu vaccine there is no reason to get jabbed now. All of this doing it to protect others is nonsense anyway as you can still transmit covid after having the jab.

All the reports since the start of our vaccination programme is that transmission is reduced greatly. At the start we didn't really know. As more and more people have been vaccinated the information has been updated regularly and it all points to large reductions in the risk of transmission.

UrAWizHarry · 24/04/2021 10:58

@Schrutesbeets

Christ people need to stop coming out with this shit.

blueangel19 · 24/04/2021 11:40

all @UrAWizHarry

Are these not facts?

oldegg123 · 24/04/2021 12:15

@blueangel19

all *@UrAWizHarry*

Are these not facts?

It's true no one is obligated to be vaccinated if they don't want to

But it's total shite that the vaccine doesn't reduce transmission. The only thing up for debate is by how much - as we gather more data we'll be able to get a more precise estimate. There will certainly be rare cases where someone who has been vaccinated is able to transmit the virus (as is true for other vaccines) but it's unlikely.

UrAWizHarry · 24/04/2021 13:14

@blueangel19

all *@UrAWizHarry*

Are these not facts?

Nope. There are plenty good reasons to get vaccinated at all ages and states of health, and the vaccines do significantly reduce transmission.

People refusing the jag with no good reason - e.g. actual medical reasons- are fucking idiots.

Cookerhood · 24/04/2021 13:15

I thought it was widely accepted now that they do. It's on the news, in the papers & so on. One example which came up in a google search:
www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/yes-vaccines-block-most-transmission-of-covid-19

blueangel19 · 24/04/2021 14:04

Thanks for the link cookerhood! I think that is very good news. The vaccine take up in the UK is very high which would of course help a lot.

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