Brasil varient affecting young children

[FatCatThinCat]

On ITV Dr Hilary said that in Brazil 852 children under the age of 9 have died from Covid in the last six weeks and 518 of them were under one years old. Is this down to the mutation or environmental factors, does anyone know? It's extremely worrying.

www.indy100.com/politics/dr-hilary-pub-landlord-starmer-b1834262?fbclid=IwAR2jrIepaxkJ6qNRo3zg8PQNSuwAvgJGaUG8YcV4pikZ01o33QV1LeOa6As

Well its because they have a high infection rate so to a large extent it means that incidence in children is sadly going to rise.

Oops, sorry for the typo in the title. It should be Brazil. Never heard of Brasil.

and its to do with the multi inflammatory syndrome that appears usually within six weeks of a covid infection . Usually it causes organs and blood vessels to become inflamed.

@FatCatThinCat

Oops, sorry for the typo in the title. It should be Brazil. Never heard of Brasil.

Didn't even notice your typo!

Its not covid itself that causes it, its the bodies reaction to it.

Brasil is what it is called in Portuguese so you could claim you were using the correct name for the country.

I read that the actual numbers are probably much higher, due to under reporting. The BBC were saying that it was estimated to be 1300 babies alone.

I agree that it's worrying but I'm not sure what the cause is. I'm sure that environmental factors must play a significant part. I don't think it can only be down to the high infection rate, as their overall deaths per million are lower than ours (though catching up) - though, again, under reporting could be an issue here.

The bbc article about this gives the same figures but says that from feb 2020 - March 2021, not the last 6 weeks.

Incidentally, I read that there have been quite a lot of children hospitalized in India too. Not sure about deaths.

I suspect that poverty and overall health is probably a factor, as well as access to appropriate health care.

Dr Hilary is a massive fuckwit.

He’s also warned about the dangers of washing your car.

I’d ignore any guff about Covid spouted by the non experts on these morning shows.

Dr Hilary? The man who suggested wearing a mask while swimming in the sea? He is the biggest shill going.

As well as deaths, I’d imagine there’s a significant undercount of the infection rate in badly affected areas. Especially in very poor areas. A more transmissible variant of Covid in a slum will probably spread like something we’ve never seen in the U.K., partly because of lockdown and partly because of living conditions.

And the reason why controlling the pandemic by whatever means is paramount.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-56696907

Scientists stress the risk of death in this age group is still "very low" - the current figures suggest only 0.58% of Brazil's 345,287 Covid deaths to date have been of 0-9 year olds - but that is more than 2,000 children.

"The numbers are really scary," says Dr Carneiro.

There's zero reason to believe the Brazil variant is more severe with young kids - the reason why you're alarmed is because all the talk in the UK has been about a virus that only kills people about to die anyway. It's quite a shock to have the truth hammered home - that all age groups are killed.

The lesson to take away from this, is that a 3rd wave in the UK mustn't happen because without a lockdown to control it, we'd end up looking at a significant number of children dying too - as they would have done in the first 2 waves if we hadn't kept infection levels low by means of lockdowns.

From what I heard, the reason more children and babies are dying in Brazil, is because many are malnourished, which is classed as an underlying health condition.

It's still heartbreaking.

And @millenialblush, I'm sorry, he suggested what?!

@bookworm1632

There's zero reason to believe the Brazil variant is more severe with young kids - the reason why you're alarmed is because all the talk in the UK has been about a virus that only kills people about to die anyway. It's quite a shock to have the truth hammered home - that all age groups are killed.

The lesson to take away from this, is that a 3rd wave in the UK mustn't happen because without a lockdown to control it, we'd end up looking at a significant number of children dying too - as they would have done in the first 2 waves if we hadn't kept infection levels low by means of lockdowns.

I'm not in the UK. We haven't had any lockdown here just recommendations about social distancing and meeting in groups. Young children have been going to school and nursery throughout but we've only had 7 deaths in the 0-9 age group, which in itself is sad enough. The thought that the Brazil variant could arrive and change that is quite alarming.

@CoffeandPancakes

From what I heard, the reason more children and babies are dying in Brazil, is because many are malnourished, which is classed as an underlying health condition.

It's still heartbreaking.

It is, isn't it. It brought me to tears reading the 852 number but another poster says it's now over 2000. I hope for all our sakes that this 'environmental factors'. It's just so sad.

I read about malnourishment being a big issue with it too. Dr Hilary has some very backwards thougts on breast feeding too, he's not a Dr I'd ever take very seriously.

It is very sad.
I can't stand Dr Hilary though. He is a tit.

It's not really environmental factors though is it, its simplee maths. A small percentage (in this case % mortality of young children due to covid) of a very large number (no. people infected in Brazil), is still going to be run into the thousands.

@Porcupineintherough

It's not really environmental factors though is it, its simplee maths. A small percentage (in this case % mortality of young children due to covid) of a very large number (no. people infected in Brazil), is still going to be run into the thousands.

I don't know. The US death toll is even higher than Brazil's. Do we know how many children and babies have died there?

So is it going to take a hold over here?

If it did I still doubt people would comply with social distancing or take on any more lockdowns. Everyone has had enough now

I don't know. The US death toll is even higher than Brazil's. Do we know how many children and babies have died there?

I can only find the figure for 0-17 which is 258.

Brasil is fine, varient isn't!