Do you still need to self-isolate before surgery if you've had the vaccine?

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I've got to decide whether to have a minor op (day case) that was postponed last year. By the time I have it, I'll have had both jabs. Does anyone know if you still need to self-isolate before surgery if you're fully vaccinated? Thanks

@XenoBitch Its crazy. People wont be able to afford it. It means a care home worker will also have to stay home and isolate alongside their partner/child/whoever needs the op and NHS workers will have to do so too in the same position.
Is there a way you can speak to the surgeon or his/her secretary to find out for sure?

[quote MercyBooth]@XenoBitch Its crazy. People wont be able to afford it. It means a care home worker will also have to stay home and isolate alongside their partner/child/whoever needs the op and NHS workers will have to do so too in the same position.
Is there a way you can speak to the surgeon or his/her secretary to find out for sure?[/quote]
Yet the NHS workers doing the op don't have to isolate. It boggles my mind.
MY DF has another appointment next week... a lengthy one so probably all the pre-op checks. I am sure we will know for certain what he has to do then. But like I said, I know my mum wont self isolate if asked, and I don't blame her.

Its Kafkesque

With shared bathrooms, you need to make sure he goes first whenever possible, like ngest gaps between users you can manage, and keep the windows open

I suggested the shielding threads because we went through this sort of stuff, found the possbie work around, learned how to get help - covid volunteers still exist btw

It's OK if not everyone in the household isolated, just as long as they isolate within the home from the person who needs to be protected. Again, the shielded had to face all those choices early on, and were no better prepared or in more advantageous circumstances than anyone else.

(You are at one advantage though - people will sympathise with you, not say that you were going to die soon anyway!)

YY @PinkSparklyPussyCat We wouldnt be able to do it either. One bedroom flat.

Same here @MercyBooth. We only have one living area as well and you have to walk through that to get to the kitchen or bathroom so it's not possible to avoid each other at all. We've said all along that if one of us gets Covid we'll just have to get on with it as we can't isolate from each other.

Also if you did have a two bedroom home then you would get less UC or bedroom tax so penalised for doing what you were told to?

Did I get the wrong end of the stick?

People on zero hours contracts wont be able to stay home and isolate with their partners. They wouldnt get allocated any more hours and would effectively lose their job.

Yet the NHS workers doing the op don't have to isolate.

The NHS workers are wearing PPE.

The patient isn't wearing PPE, and, if having a GA, is having an aerosol generating proceedure where their saliva and lung-fluids are being atomised and sprayed all over the theatre.

If the patient has isolated then they're only a green pathway and only 'normal' cleaning is needed.

If they haven't, then they're on an amber pathway and the theater needs to be left for the aerosols to settle, then every surface (walls, ceilings, chair legs...) cleaned before the next patient can be treated.

Lifting the requirement to isolate dramatically increases how long each patient takes, which means the current enormous backlog will just get bigger and bigger.

If you're on a green pathway and have self-isolated, how would you feel if the patient before you had decided not to? Because they are putting you at risk.

Im talking about the people who LIVE with the patient. The patients family members. partners, children etc.

You are at one advantage though - people will sympathise with you, not say that you were going to die soon anyway

The trouble with internet forums is people dont know the full situation of the people they are talking to online.
DH is 71 and has COPD.

My mum did but only for three days and her and my step dad both isolated together (easier if you're retired obviously!)

How does a family member potentially risking losing their job, and possibly losing the home they all live in help the patients recovery?

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DS had op in December and wasn’t told to isolate, he just had two PCR tests 3 days apart.

It was three days isolation and a negative test for a friend having a cancer op last month.
We didn't even visit her in her garden.
But she still had to get to the hospital so I drove her the hour's journey. Windows open, masks on, her in the back.

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You have to isolate, the rest of your household don’t. Like we did when school bubbles burst - it’s only the affected person who self-isolates.

I know that makes no sense. I suppose they can’t tell you to pull your children out of school for two weeks just so you can have your hernia repaired (or whatever it may be).

As per one of my previous comments, my DF is due an op (to repair a trauma), and has 2 appointments this week so will find out what the state of play is regarding having to self isolate. As I said before, my mum absolutely will not isolate alongside him. There is no help at all for family members who would be asked to isolate, let alone if they are also self employed.

Sort of, dp just worked from home, it was only for 72 hours.

(I still went to work and he went for walks too, they didn't seem to be that strict)

My DF is having his op this weekend. Not been asked to isolate at all.

@XenoBitch

Of course. Having the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it and therefore passing it on. The vaccine just means you don't get the symptoms as bad!