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People who rely on unscientific opinion

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RaspberryCoulis · 14/04/2021 23:38

How do you deal with people - or respond to them - when they are swayed by the most unscientific opinion out there?

Spoke to someone I know this morning - early 40s, has her own underlying health problems, and is a carer for an older relative. She has had the first dose of the AZ about a month ago, no serious issues.

First thing she says is that she's very worried about this clotting thing and the AZ and is thinking that she won't go for her second jab when called. I say that as far as I knew the very very rare issue with clots was after the first dose only, and she should absolutely go and have the second dose. And that as soon as I get my appointment I'll be skipping in to get my first dose of whatever they offer me.

She then said :

my hairdresser told me that it's after the second jab you have to worry, not the first

and

Oxford University has taken their name off the AZ jab because they don't want to be associated with "all these deaths"

and

the same hairdresser's friend's uncle had the AZ vaccine and had to have half of his leg amputated because of a clot. Hmm

Now this is someone who I chat to but wouldn't class as a friend. More of a work relationship. What I really wanted to do was laugh and tell her she was being spectacularly dim, and what medical qualifications her hairdresser had. But it's a real issue - people do believe things that other people tell them, the horror stories. And lots of people aren't that bright, are a bit scared about the whole vaccine/covid thing and latch on to stuff.

Typical MN response would probably to advise saying something really rude and abrupt, thus ruining the relationship entirely. But what DO you say??? I just kept reiterating that DH and I were happy to have ours and that she really ought to speak to her GP if she was worried.

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pinkearedcow · 15/04/2021 09:30

@BarbaraofSeville

From over 20 years of talking to members of the public about various hazards that many people worry disproportionately about, I've learned that it's pretty much impossible to change anyone's mind once they're convinced that The Bad Thing Will Happen, because even when you present them with indisputable evidence, explain how correlation is not the same as causation and the importance of repeatable data from good quality studies on representative populations not 'my mate did that and died' type anecdotes, they just dismiss you as 'well you would say that because you're part of the cover up'.

And it's got worse as the more the internet has penetrated so much into more people's lives. I've thankfully stepped back from this sort of thing in the last 5-10 years because you can waste a lot of time arguing with crazy and its just soul destroying.

Yes this is all very true. The anti vax stuff on here really gets to me, but it is mostly a waste of time arguing.
GoldfinchCharm · 15/04/2021 16:17

@savethegrannies

.. oh and given what type of thread this is, and to save posters time:
  • Yes, I am stupid
  • Yes I am a conspiracy theorist
  • Yes I am a covid denier
  • Yes I am anti vax
  • Yes i think Bill Gates wants to insert microchips into us all etc
I think that covers the usual insults 🤣
Erm, you missed out fascist, @savethegrannies. You're one of them, too. And you're almost certainly best mates with Trump.
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