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I’m terrified about getting my 2nd AZ vaccine

40 replies

Gmcg123 · 09/04/2021 00:57

I had my first AZ vaccine 15 days ago. I am 23 and heathy with no underlying health conditions - I got my vaccine as I care for my brother who has severe learning disabilities as my parents unfortunately can’t anymore.
I am really worried about getting my second vaccine -especially as they are now offering alternatives for people in my age group. I am also really worried about the CSVT risk (although it is small risk - the risk of me getting COVID and getting ill with it is very small too as I am a sahm now for the next year at least until dd starts school)
Is there anybody on here in the same situation as me ?

Sorry if this is hard to read - it’s late and I’m tired but I’m up worrying about this vaccine Sad

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Torvean · 09/04/2021 01:05

Are you about something like Modern? Or the latest vaccine in stage 3, that is just for age 18-30.

Has there been proof that AZ works with others without side effects?

I'd ssy you've had the first one OK. Then you'll be OK in the second one too.

flapjackfairy · 09/04/2021 01:15

I thought Matt Hancock said today that all clots have been after1st jab so don't worry about having 2nd one if you were fine after the initial one. I thought it was reported on BBC news at lunchtime .

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Gmcg123 · 09/04/2021 01:16

@Torvean

Are you about something like Modern? Or the latest vaccine in stage 3, that is just for age 18-30.

Has there been proof that AZ works with others without side effects?

I'd ssy you've had the first one OK. Then you'll be OK in the second one too.

I’m not sure if it would be better to get a second dose of a different vaccine or just not get the second one at all and just wait it out

My main concern regarding the second dose is that I assume that very few people in my age bracket has had a second dose of AZ so I don’t think there is enough information to conclude if it’s safe or if there is more risk associated with getting the vaccines second dose.

I don’t think I’m out of the woods with the first dose as I think the risk is highest in the first 3/4 weeks after vaccine

I know the risk is reasonably small but I still find it scary -especially with so little information

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Gmcg123 · 09/04/2021 01:19

@flapjackfairy

I thought Matt Hancock said today that all clots have been after1st jab so don't worry about having 2nd one if you were fine after the initial one. I thought it was reported on BBC news at lunchtime .
I can’t imagine they have much information about 2nd doses in my age bracket - as 12 weeks ago they weren’t vaccinating my age group so I don’t think many people has had their second dose yet

Although I do appreciate you both responding and trying to ease my mind
Thank you

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LilyPond2 · 09/04/2021 01:24

If I were in your position (very young, no health conditions, low risk lifestyle) I think I would be in no hurry to get a second dose. I would be more inclined to adopt a "wait and see" approach, as we may get more information over time as to who is at risk from blood clots and also as to how much protection you get in the long term from a single dose.

Alondra · 09/04/2021 01:27

Don't be scared. Australia's Chief Medical Officer was very clear yesterday - the problem is with the first dose. If you've had the dose without serious side effects, you can safely take the second. It won't cause you any problems.

www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-08/australia-new-coronavirus-vaccine-rollout-plan-what-we-know/100057354

MrsFezziwig · 09/04/2021 01:28

Not sure what Torvean is saying, but:

  • they are currently saying if you don’t have the rare side effect with the first dose, you are unlikely to get it with the second. I’m not sure how they know this already, but I’m sure by the time your second dose is due they will know a lot more;
  • I don’t think the trials of mixing vaccines are finished yet, but again this knowledge will have progressed by the time your second dose is due.

Honestly, I would just forget about it for now and then see what the situation is when your second dose is due, as they’re finding more out about it every day. Not intending to sound like your mum! but you sound as though you’ve got enough on your plate without being awake at this time of night!

Feelingpoorlysick · 09/04/2021 01:28

Its such a small risk (4 in a million), try not to worry.

I've had my 1st, and I'll be having my 2nd. I had covid last year, definitely don't want that again.

sleepwouldbenice · 09/04/2021 01:33

They are saying if you didn’t react to your first jab then the second will be fine

But I understand your anxiety

But it’s probably 2 months until you are called for your second. That’s such a long time for more info in this COVID world

Please don’t let this overwhelm you. X

Topseyt · 09/04/2021 01:42

I think that the media circus around this is blowing it waaaaay out of proportion.

The risk is generally with the first dose of the vaccine and is utterly minuscule.

I had my first dose of the AZ vaccine on 27th February. I'll be jumping at the chance to get my second dose when I am invited.

Mindymomo · 09/04/2021 07:07

There will be loads of under 30’s that have received their second vaccine through being vulnerable or through their work. There hasn’t been a reported case of anyone getting clots after the 2nd dose.

confusedfriday · 09/04/2021 07:08

I’m in my mid 30s, no conditions, had my AZ yesterday (through work). I’ve also had Covid already. I too feel very anxious, but:

  • there’s no guarantee I will be offered another vaccine
  • even if I had a choice, there’s zero guarantee I won’t be suffering some rare side effect from another one either.
  • I will probably have to be vaccinated soon with something anyway and this something won’t have a long term data either;
  • every single medicine carries a risk, but a I don’t hesitate to take a painkiller for a headache. I could do without it, but I chose to use it. It comes with the risk too! I drink wine from time to time and risks of alcohol are well known and documented, however there are lots of people drinking alcohol to the excess.
My points are not ideal but that’s how I help myself to stay calm, even though I’m anxious and quite cross at the situation.
AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 09/04/2021 07:16

@Mindymomo

There will be loads of under 30’s that have received their second vaccine through being vulnerable or through their work. There hasn’t been a reported case of anyone getting clots after the 2nd dose.
How many is loads? At the last figure I saw there were less than 1 million 2nd AZ doses in total in England so nowwy that under 30s could be a significant number of those surely and even fewer who are over 28 out.

I'm not saying the 2nd dose has any risks but I am questioning whether there's enough data to draw any conclusions.

roguetomato · 09/04/2021 07:18

If you had the vaccine 15 days ago, your next doze won't be for while. And worrying period for your first is almost over.
There will be more data and info by the time you need 2nd dose. So mean while, don't worry and decide on what's the latest info when time comes.

Temp023 · 09/04/2021 07:47

Do the maths and then have your 2nd vaccine! FFS!

Otherwise make up your mind to lock yourself in your house forever, so the rest of us can get on with some sort of life!

Barbadosgirl · 09/04/2021 07:50

@confusedfriday

I’m in my mid 30s, no conditions, had my AZ yesterday (through work). I’ve also had Covid already. I too feel very anxious, but:
  • there’s no guarantee I will be offered another vaccine
  • even if I had a choice, there’s zero guarantee I won’t be suffering some rare side effect from another one either.
  • I will probably have to be vaccinated soon with something anyway and this something won’t have a long term data either;
  • every single medicine carries a risk, but a I don’t hesitate to take a painkiller for a headache. I could do without it, but I chose to use it. It comes with the risk too! I drink wine from time to time and risks of alcohol are well known and documented, however there are lots of people drinking alcohol to the excess.
My points are not ideal but that’s how I help myself to stay calm, even though I’m anxious and quite cross at the situation.
This is a really great way of approaching things IMO. I really do think the reporting of this has been questionable to say the least!
Summerofcontent · 09/04/2021 07:58

We are the only country using the 12 week dosing interval so there will be plenty of data from countries following the 4 week schedule that we can look at

Blessex · 09/04/2021 08:00

Am late 40s and am desperate for a jab. Any jab. It’s so unfair those who really want it cannot get it and those who have had the fortune of getting it are regretting it or not wanting to complete their dose. The risk of clots is tiny.

Athinginitself · 09/04/2021 08:02

Also the risk of clots is spread over all ages, so you dont need the data from your specific age group. It's just that the risk analysis is different for younger people because they are less likely to get seriously I'll from covid. Lots of people have now had a 2nd dose of AZ.

lurker101 · 09/04/2021 08:04

I’m a couple of years older than you, but still under 30. I’ve had my first AZ and can’t wait for my second. I am glad they have reviewed the data, and have made recommendations, but the fact that they have said for everyone to continue and get second doses gives me comfort that it’s not a concern to the scientists/CMO. Ultimately it’s down to the individual to decide (as with all medical treatments) but I am more than happy to have my second dose.

hodgebit · 09/04/2021 08:16

As someone who has myself got things out of proportion when younger I understand, but to be "terrified" of a 1:250,000 risk of a blood clot is completely out of proportion.

With 25,000 serious injuries from road traffic accidents in 2019 in the U.K. (2020 figures not reported and besides would be anomalously low due to Covid), the risk of car travel over a year is 100 times greater than the vaccine blood clot risk.

The pill had a 1:2,000 risk of a blood clot - again 100 times more likely!

Being objective about things, there are countless aspects of everyday life that are more "terrifying" than the vaccine, most of which we live with without a second thought.

If you let things as risky as the vaccine terrify you, you'd never climb a flight of stairs or eat anything others than puréed food (choke risk) again!

hodgebit · 09/04/2021 08:28

Just doing a bit of maths on accident stats, and it seems that you are as likely to suffer a serious road traffic accident injury or death travelling to and from a vaccine centre 20 miles away from you for both vaccinations, than you would be from getting a blood clot from the vaccine.

coogee · 09/04/2021 08:32

We are the only country using the 12 week dosing interval

I don't think we are.

I know somebody in Australia who had his first AZ jab last week. He said his second one is due in 11 weeks.

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 09/04/2021 08:33

@Temp023

Do the maths and then have your 2nd vaccine! FFS!

Otherwise make up your mind to lock yourself in your house forever, so the rest of us can get on with some sort of life!

Temp023's quest for a job in the diplomatic service continues.
TimeQuest01 · 09/04/2021 08:44

@Summerofcontent, I think other countries are following the UK 12 week gap with regards to the second AZ dose, at least Spain are.