So the under 30s are going to be given the jab that actually works?

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On the news today (watching Sky or I'd post link) and they is a Doctor saying that AZ doesn't work very well on the South African variant.
So with the news that AZ isn't being used on under 30's this less at risk group will be getting the more effective jab and those 30+ who are statistically more at risk of covid are going to be issued with a jab that not only risks clots but is less effective. Great.

It depends. The UK has ordered 57 million doses of Pfizer and Moderna combined. That’s enough for 28.5 million people in total.

There are about 10 million 18-30s. Many Pfizer doses have been given already and many more will be reserved for 2nd doses.

So it depends how many people there are left to be vaccinated and how many RNA vaccines there will be available. Guessing it’s inevitable that the AZ will be offered to the 30-50s though, but what we don’t know is if there’ll be any other option later for people who refuse AZ.

Pfizer and Moderna will only be offered if they are available, otherwise it'll be AZ. However, we do have other vaccines ordered, but I guess it might depend on the technology behind them as to whether they'll be favoured above AZ. We do have 60m doses of Novavax ordered, the top four priority groups will get the first doses of these in early autumn. However, that'll leave us with 30m+ free to re-vaccinate another 15m+. At that point we'll know more about how much protection other vaccines really offer against variants and which ones are really a problem for us.

Great, cos I'm 26 and got the AZ jab yesterday....

Bloody snowflakes.

Frustrating as it is there are reasons they are doing this. I presume you’re just ranting rather than disliking anyone under 30 due to events beyond their control?

Oh great, those who are most likely to have been affected by isolation and job losses to protect the older generation have a chance at a jab that gives them a lower chance of blood clots, which are more common in that age group with that particular vaccine.

The pzifer vaccine also has some links with blood clots. Real life data has shown that AZ is as effective as pzifer. Some of the other variants are affecting younger people more.

@InTheNightWeWillWish

Oh great, those who are most likely to have been affected by isolation and job losses to protect the older generation have a chance at a jab that gives them a lower chance of blood clots, which are more common in that age group with that particular vaccine.

The pzifer vaccine also has some links with blood clots. Real life data has shown that AZ is as effective as pzifer. Some of the other variants are affecting younger people more.

I'm 30. I know there has to be a cut off somewhere but it does seem strange that it's considered safe for me to have AZ but not someone a few months younger. I'll take whatever I'm offered though.

Not all under 30s are less at risk. Some fall in the CEV group because people seem to think we are all half dead or elderly

I've had Novavax more than happy. Unfer 30s may get Moderna. The new drug for age 18-30 doesn't even have permission to go ahead.

The majority will not get the SA variant if ppl follow quarantined.

The vast majority of people in that age group that I know aren't even having the vaccine.

It’s only the SA variant though where there is an issue. AZ IS effective against the dominant Kent variant and the Brazilian one.

I’m just accepting we’re all going to need top up vaccines over time to address variants.

The risk of a blood clot is minute, but as I understand is slightly higher for that age group. The best course of action is to give them a different vaccine. You sound a little resentful of them even though they have no control over this.

Reported to get thread title changed. People need to crack down on the spread of misinformation, it's so damaging.

waxonwaxoff I’m 31, so also over the arbitrary age limit and I’ll probably be offered AZ with no choice of a different one.

The study on how AZ works against the SA variant was so small as to be effectively meaningless (2000 people).

My understanding is that the risk of blood clots is not actually higher in younger age groups, but that the risk benefit equation is skewed towards the risk (of covid 19 v a vaccine) being higher the younger you are.

If we get Moderna or other in soon who gets it?

Does it still go in age order so late 40 or do they call up under 30

I have an actual blood clotting disorder so my risk will be far higher than a non affected person 5 years younger than me. I will be deeply unimpressed if I am not offered a different one (I know there is still a risk of clots with any but will not take the AZ)

Unless I change my mind 😂

Does seem a very spoilt first world complaint imo.
I have had two doses of AZ and very grateful.

@oldegg123

Reported to get thread title changed. People need to crack down on the spread of misinformation, it's so damaging.

This, totally.

The jealousy covid has created is unreal.

Under 30s really haven’t been a slight priority at all during covid, and now God forbid they may get a vaccine that is less likely to give them a clot let’s be outraged.

What a sad butter society we have become

*Bitter

Ridiculous and untrue title.
twitter.com/thegazmanrants/status/1375164299589586949?s=21

Vaccines need to be distributed in such a way that works best for the population as a whole, much like lockdowns.
The Oxford vaccine remains highly effective and safe. The risk of clots is real but tiny. You are overreacting.

I can’t believe the number of threads there are at the moment about people feeling hard done by because they are X age, getting Y jab etc. or are just outside a certain age boundary etc.

In my immediate family, as is the case with most people, we have people of different ages, sexes and health, and with different employment situations. We all consider ourselves very lucky to live in a country where vaccine and treatment levels are much better than in many other countries.

The way so many people are feeling sorry for themselves smacks of a very entitled population. I don’t think I am a sheep, but until I can create a vaccine myself, I will be grateful for any that my family and I are given. I don’t think scientists or politicians are out to kill us; this pandemic is horrendous, and there are no certainties, but I have an immense sense of gratitude to those trying to help us based on the level of scientific knowledge at the time - which is continually changing.

I don’t feel the level of self-pity demonstrated on this and similar threads reflects very well on us as a nation. Are people expecting a vaccine tailored exactly to their needs that has been tested for every single possible risk, and do they think they should be given it before everyone else? I think we need to be a bit more patient.

Completely agree @OverTheRainbow88, people have lost their collective shit, and have forgotten how to be decent, rational human beings. The young have been demonised throughout this who pandemic, so it doesn’t really surprise me.

There will be people in other countries who are elderly and vulnerable who won’t be offered any vaccine for months. In my opinion, healthy