Sacha Lord Data not Dates, Facts not Fiction

[MrsHastingslikethebattle]

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A little win. Judge has decided that the government haven't produce enough evidence to not open indoor hospitality with non essential retail.
Now there is a new court hearing on April 19th.

In all probability, by the time this is all heard etc, it may be May 17th anyway, but this is a step in the right direction.
The government have been asked time and time again to produce evidence with mask wearing and yet nothing. They have recently been asked to why secondary school children cannot remove masks when seated but in pubs they can.

This begs the question is how many other rules and regulations the government have implemented throughout this pandemic but there isn't actually any hard evidence to support it.

tonnes without good evidence but... so what. People were afraid & supported the govt to be more cautious about the obvious harms while ignoring the more invisible harms

It's what people wanted & Fear Rules.

But will this in place, surely it will open peoples eyes?
If this can be challenged, it gives hope to what else can be challenged.

Ah yes, the great fantastic Sacha Lord of Manchester (lol). The night time economy tsar of the city, who runs all kinds of venues and festivals including Parklife, or Pond life as we like to call the types of who attend it (very chavvy, extremely drug heavy).

He and the great dear leader King of the North Sir Andrew Burnham are simply wasting their time. Hopefully the courts throw their case into the shredder.

They’re arguing pubs and restaurants are as safe as retail when you’re sat in a room full of people without masks on eating and drinking. They are too biased to understand the reasoning. Lunacy.

It’s good the government need to be held to account for their decisions and these should be evidence based not what ever Chris Whitty feels like recommending.

The argument for pubs and restaurants is they are a regulated environment where you have to remain seated, scan track and trace, wear a mask when moving around and are socially distanced from other tables. The people cramming into primark next week are non of these things, every man and his dog thinks they can be mask exempt, there is no control on numbers and social distancing is non existent. The government also forced hospitality to spend thousands making themselves “covid secure” only to then keep them closed. The same for gym classes next week I can run on a treadmill 2meters from someone else but can’t sit on a yoga mat in a class 2meters from someone else, the rules are ridiculous.

@MrsHastingslikethebattle

But will this in place, surely it will open peoples eyes? If this can be challenged, it gives hope to what else can be challenged.

Nothing will open people's eyes unless they want them to be opened.

On the other hand, I really hope they win. This government are making arbitrary rules with no evidence and no checks and balances, and the target seems to be hospitality time and time again.

In saying that, if we were able to challenge every restriction that has a low or zero evidence base then the restrictions would quickly come to an end.

@Thewiseoneincognito

Ah yes, the great fantastic Sacha Lord of Manchester (lol). The night time economy tsar of the city, who runs all kinds of venues and festivals including Parklife, or Pond life as we like to call the types of who attend it (very chavvy, extremely drug heavy).

He and the great dear leader King of the North Sir Andrew Burnham are simply wasting their time. Hopefully the courts throw their case into the shredder.

They’re arguing pubs and restaurants are as safe as retail when you’re sat in a room full of people without masks on eating and drinking. They are too biased to understand the reasoning. Lunacy.

People who are sat down, as in not moving.

Even in essential shops such as super markets, you have people come in, not wearing masks or not wearing them properly or they have bought their exemption card off Ebay. They stroll around, no social distancing, picking up food, putting it down. Same with non essential shops going into primark for £2 fluffy socks.
Hospitality was responsible for something 2.3% of cases. Its supermarkets and hospital are Covid hot spots of you like.

It is lunacy that the government have implemented measures to stop a sector of small businesses without any hard evidence.

@Katie517

It’s good the government need to be held to account for their decisions and these should be evidence based not what ever Chris Whitty feels like recommending.

The argument for pubs and restaurants is they are a regulated environment where you have to remain seated, scan track and trace, wear a mask when moving around and are socially distanced from other tables. The people cramming into primark next week are non of these things, every man and his dog thinks they can be mask exempt, there is no control on numbers and social distancing is non existent. The government also forced hospitality to spend thousands making themselves “covid secure” only to then keep them closed. The same for gym classes next week I can run on a treadmill 2meters from someone else but can’t sit on a yoga mat in a class 2meters from someone else, the rules are ridiculous.

Thousands, more like millions. I think it was roughly rumoured to nearly a half a billion to make them Covid secure. One way systems, table service, track and trace....and yet non of this is required in retail.

Why make hospitality spend that much money on being Covid secure then say they cant open?

I feel much safer being sat down in a pub or restaurant than going into a supermarket or a retail shop.

I really hope they win. There should not be these restrictions on perfectly normal activities without proper evidence that they are necessary and proportionate.

I work in hospitality. In December we had screens put up between every table to maximise capacity, they were used for 2 weeks. All that money spent, in an industry that is already struggling and has lost so much money this year, for what?

Its all a complete farce now as far as I'm concerned. The rules make no sense. The government has manipulated the population into believing that covid is deadly to everyone. So much of the "covid secure" stuff that businesses put into place is all for show, to convince the paranoid masses that they are "safe". And they lap it up! They tut at strangers for not wearing a mask or for walking down a supermarket aisle the wrong way without stopping to question how ridiculous it all is.

The government has created a situation where a large percentage of the population will get down on their knees and say "yes I will do whatever ridiculous thing you want just pleaaasase don't let me get covid".

@Thewiseoneincognito

Ah yes, the great fantastic Sacha Lord of Manchester (lol). The night time economy tsar of the city, who runs all kinds of venues and festivals including Parklife, or Pond life as we like to call the types of who attend it (very chavvy, extremely drug heavy).

He and the great dear leader King of the North Sir Andrew Burnham are simply wasting their time. Hopefully the courts throw their case into the shredder.

They’re arguing pubs and restaurants are as safe as retail when you’re sat in a room full of people without masks on eating and drinking. They are too biased to understand the reasoning. Lunacy.

Oh give over. It's rammed at my local supermarket, has been for months as people have nowt else to do but wonder around the aisles bored out of their tree, picking things up, putting them down, getting in each others way and generally providing a fertile breeding ground for an airborne illness (where on earth else do you think tens of thousands of cases were coming from when everything else has been shut this past 6 months??). Last time I was allowed to my pub, people were sat socially distanced with table service for all and a one way system in place. You cannot seriously tell me this is less safe than a supermarket.

@Shelovesamystery they way the whole industry has been treated is so shocking. To lose all their Christmas trade whilst expecting restrictions to be lifted before Christmas was just so cruel and unnecessary. It doesn't feel like the structured, orderly and law-based country we knew a year ago.