AZ booked, younger female with Covid antibodies. WWYD

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Early 30s eligible for vaccine through work. No conditions, had Covid a couple of months ago and recovered well. Booked for this Friday and very unsure of what to do. It seems MHRA will issue a new guidance today or tomorrow but what do I do meanwhile? Cancel and book an appointment for later this month (have no idea if it will be available)? It doesn’t make any sense to vaccinate now with AZ if I know that I’m immune already and there is a chance that this vaccine will not be used anymore for younger patients? Shall I wait for Moderna? I am at a loss.

Well, it didn’t help me

I'm same, early 30s, only had a headache with COVID, so it feels more risk to me to have the vaccine now. Few years younger and I'd be given a different one.

@HarrietOh

I'm same, early 30s, only had a headache with COVID, so it feels more risk to me to have the vaccine now. Few years younger and I'd be given a different one.

Well, hopefully you have immunity at the moment anyway so a bit of time to make a decision.

I would definitely wait if I was in the OPs situation.

I’m a bit older than you (40) but also due to be vaccinated next week. I’m cancelling and going to wait and see what data emerges in the next few weeks.

We don't know what antibodies we get from an infection. It may be on how ill you were.
A vaccine is reliable. Take it.

@Torvean

We don't know what antibodies we get from an infection. It may be on how ill you were. A vaccine is reliable. Take it.

We actually do know that the majority of people develop immunity after infection that lasts for up to 8 months (so far). We have more data on immunity after infection than after vaccination atm.

Just one of many studies:

science.sciencemag.org/content/371/6529/eabf4063

If you have antibodies there is NO need for the vaccine. Look on YouTube, there is a medical doctor there who states that very clearly and is advising young and otherwise healthy people not to get vaccinated. I think you’d be mad to personally.

i’m 29 and have been offered the vaccine due to having a history of anxiety (which i’m not currently medicated for). i’ve had about a dozen texts and phone calls from the doctors to book. i’ve decided against the vaccine at the moment because i’m in the age category most at risk of clots, i have a family history of blood clots, and i’ve already had covid. for me, at the moment, the risks outweigh the benefits. i’m not saying i’ll never get the vaccine but right now i won’t be. i’ll re-evaluate in a couple of months time when more information should be available.

I've only read that they are meaning younger as in 29 and under? I'm 30 and haven't read anything to suggest I won't be getting the AZ. Have I missed something?

You don’t fall into the category of “younger”. You’re over 30. The vaccine is still recommended for you. It’s likely you’ll be offered AZ or nothing.

@WilsonMilson

If you have antibodies there is NO need for the vaccine. Look on YouTube, there is a medical doctor there who states that very clearly and is advising young and otherwise healthy people not to get vaccinated. I think you’d be mad to personally.

Well if a doctor on YouTube is saying it it must be true

I will be having the vaccine. I want it to be done with.
Mainly because I’m indirectly forced into it - through work, circumstances and lack of choice. I can cancel and wait, however there’s no guarantee that another vaccine won’t make me sick; there’s also zero guarantee that I will be offered one that I want.
Some of my younger friends have had AZ. A few of them were really sick with it, some of them didn’t feel a thing even though they had a natural Covid infection recently.
I just hope I won’t be the one with the clot.
Sounds sad, but I just don’t see the other way from today’s conference.

@sunshineandshowers21
I completely understand your position and wish you luck. It’s so hard to make a balanced decision right now.

@WilsonMilson

If you have antibodies there is NO need for the vaccine. Look on YouTube, there is a medical doctor there who states that very clearly and is advising young and otherwise healthy people not to get vaccinated. I think you’d be mad to personally.

That's just one doctor's opinion, others differ. Prof Shane Crotty (virologist/immunologist) is also on YouTube and has said his research showed that if you have had Covid, and then subsequently have the vaccine (one dose) then you will have antibodies 50 times higher than people who have not previously had Covid. It really boosts your immunity further. His educated opinion as a researcher in the field is that it's beneficial to get that extra boost.

People still need to be vaccinated even if they’re young and healthy. Otherwise we are looking at continued lockdowns with everything that entails.

@MimiPigeon
I followed all the rules, I worked on the frontline and on the individual level it’ll be a bit too much to suffer from a blood clot just to help others to enjoy their freedoms isn’t it? I’ll get the vaccine because I don’t see many choices for me at the moment. But I also can’t agree with the argument about “protecting others”. I’ve got small children who’s going to be left with no mother if something happens to me and COVID wasn’t and still is not a big risk for me at all. I’ve had colds worse than COVID. I would never had this kind of vaccination if it wasn’t for my job tbh. Sorry for being so emotional, but it is what it is. Shall I have life altering side effects, I will be only the number in statistics.

Definitely wait OP. The news and government coming clean on this is only just starting. Hopefully we’ll know more over the coming weeks. It’s simply not worth the risk.

I'm in the same position OP but older than you. I've cancelled my jab. My GP told me the new advice was to wait 3 months after having covid before having a jab in any case.

@MimiPigeon

People still need to be vaccinated even if they’re young and healthy. Otherwise we are looking at continued lockdowns with everything that entails.

No we’re not. The lockdowns were to prevent the nhs being overwhelmed. The JCVI prioritised vaccination for the groups most likely to end up in hospital or die. Younger/healthier people are unlikely to end up in hospital in large enough numbers to overwhelm the NHS. It’s also worth remembering that infection also confers immunity and will contribute to herd immunity and reduce community transmission.

@Campervan69
It’s nearly 3 months for me, but not yet.
I didn’t know about the new 3 month rule. But I don’t have any diagnosed underlying conditions so didn’t talk to GP.

I had some blood tests done as have some lingering after effects which they've now diagnosed as being due to long covid as there's nothing wrong with me. Actually feeling a lot better this week suddenly. So was wary of knocking myself back as my husband had covid at the same time as me, had his jab last week and was really poorly again for the whole weekend. Felt like he had covid again. Anyway my doctor is part of the covid task force for our area and therefore very knowledgeable about developments so I was able to ask him all the questions I wanted answers to.

Lockdowns were to prevent Covid spreading. People may not be dying but they will be incubating new variants. We need to stop the spread. I would like to live in a society where we aren’t constantly wearing masks and restricting numbers and social distancing to prevent Covid spreading. That means everyone has to be vaccinated. If they aren’t it’s just a matter of time before a new variant appears.

Why would you want or need a vaccine for a virus you have just recovered from? What is the possible benefit to you?

mimi I hope you are joking. We most certainly will not manage to vaccinate everyone and hell freeze before my kids have a vaccine every six months for a virus of no consequence to them

We saved the goddam failing NHS. We even shafted the young. At what point did flatten the curve turn to zero covid? Because this country will have one fight on its hands if it thinks that is going to be accepted.