Staying in self catering accommodation this week with another family?

[HedgeOwl]

So if the rules allow people to stay in self catering, but only one family or a bubble. If you weren’t in a legitimate bubble but were meeting up with someone inside against the rules anyway, would you just go on holiday together this week anyway in one shared house?

No, I wouldn't.

It's also not fair to the owner.

No. But I wouldn't be meeting up with someone against the rules either.

If the kids are in school together anyway?

No I wouldn't. It's putting the owner in a difficult position by having to ask you to prove you're one household and potentially turn you away, it's making the neighbours uncomfortable and potentially damaging relationships between the owner and the neighbours. You've known for months that this wouldn't be allowed, and the fact that the kids are in school together changes none of that. Reschedule for later in the year or just one family goes

No, because the level of contact between two whole families sharing a living space is orders of magnitude higher than the level of contact just between the children for the few hours a day they are at school.

And because I will be utterly pissed off if people breaking the rules over the spring and summer leads to yet another wave that means the rest of us continue to live with this for even longer.

No, because what you do in you’re own house is up to you, but it’s very unfair to put the owner of the self catering accommodation in the position where you’re breaking the law. I say that as someone who has been seeing family inside against the rules.

@HedgeOwl

If the kids are in school together anyway?

Self catering accommodation is from the 12th, will the kids have been in school right up until the 12th? If not that point is irrelevant.

Are you looking for a free pass to go against the rules?

Do you mean from 12th? If you are in England
No I wouldn’t, the kids might spend all day together at school but presumably the adults don’t
Plus it’s actually illegal and you are risking being asked to leave and/or fined.

Just one family should go or you should cancel today so that someone who is following the guidance and law can safely enjoy the accommodation. There is a shortage, apparently.

It's only allowed from 12th April, not 'this week'?

@ScrumptiousBears

Are you looking for a free pass to go against the rules?

Op is after a yes of course everyone will do it ... op which is the point of asking if you already know the answer

No, of course not. I mean we've all been in situations where what we want to do might only be bending the rules a tiny bit...but what are the consequences of everyone if everyone behaved like that? It's just pissing over everyone else who is trying to do the right thing.

You would also be potentially increasing the risk to the owner, cleaner and whoever has booked the house after you.

No. The steps have been carefully planned out to limit social contact. We are slowly increasing the amount of social contact that is allowed to happen and observing the impact on the spread of the virus and the impact that the vaccinations have had on changing the rate that infected people need to be hospitalised.

If you start saying fuck it and just doing whatever you want including the most high risk activity possible ie cohabiting with another household who are not part of your limited bubble of allowable contacts then you're going to be contributing to messing up that observation and are more likely than those who are following the rules to add to the case volumes/hospitalisation/deaths which will impact everyone by slowing down the roadmap.

No. I will admit I've broken the rules where I've felt it's necessary - to keep my job. But not to go on holiday, it's not necessary.

I'd be rescheduling anyway as many councils in tourist areas are clear that they're still in lockdown and don't want tourists yet. It not reasonable to sod the rules and go away with another family because the kids happen to be at the same school, no.

If you're meeting up with friends indoors already, you're already being selfish, why do you care what anyone here thinks? Rules are for other people, right? Not for you, because you're the exception, you're special. Other people can sacrifice seeing their grandchildren or friends for the good of the community (so that rates don't go up again like in Europe), but not you.

If everyone did the same as you, we'd all suffer. But you don't care about that, do you?

No
It's against the rules in England
Wait until half term

No because I want this shitty pandemic to move along and allow some normality back.

If that means waiting a bit longer before I can increase social contact then so be it.

Hopefully by this time next year we can all be booking some fabulous holidays wherever and which whoever we want.

No, I would have cancelled as soon as the roadmap was announced.

@GreenTeaPingPong

If you're meeting up with friends indoors already, you're already being selfish, why do you care what anyone here thinks? Rules are for other people, right? Not for you, because you're the exception, you're special. Other people can sacrifice seeing their grandchildren or friends for the good of the community (so that rates don't go up again like in Europe), but not you.

If everyone did the same as you, we'd all suffer. But you don't care about that, do you?

Exactly this

That'll be no then. Hopefully clear to the OP

Most self catering places ask for names ages and addresses from everyone staying and will only accept your booking if you are one household.

Absolutely not. It’s people bending the rules and justifying it on the basis that the children are at school together anyway that will delay things improving. Utterly irresponsible in my opinion.