Adult dd and her dcs all have cold symptoms with a cough

[Kaylasmum49]

My dd has just told me that her household are full of the cold. They all have a cough with the 8 month old being the worst.

Should she go for a test or treat it just as a cold. Her dd goes to school and her ds goes to nursery. My 17 yo dd has lfts in the house, would there be any point in giving one of these to my dd or so they not work if you have symptoms?

You could email the school and nursery.
Even if the kids seem better they still shouldnt be in for 10d. If they havent been tested.

@Kaylasmum49

No need to attack me!! I have told her she needs to test, she says he has felt like this before and it's just a cold. They all have runny noses, 3 out of 5 have a cough. I can't force her to get tested but I have told her that it's wrong to put the dcs to school and nursery with these symptoms. I would without any hesitation have a test with those symptoms.

Please keep telling her that she can't send them to school without a negative test. 1 child like this had wiped out my DP and another teacher who was exposed to a positive child (as well as numerous positives, with one child taking it home to their pregnant mum). We are now 2 months later, 2 hospitalisations and no chance of my DP returning to work now until at least may when his blood pressure might actually be controlled. And he gains some of the 2st he lost.

All it takes is one case in a school to cause carnage; in this case passing it on to the teachers' families (me included) and removing teachers from 3 additional schools.

@Kaylasmum49

She doesn't appear to be scared of covid but she is struggling massively with lockdown and her mental health is suffering badly. I think it's the thought of having to isolate that's her biggest concern.

I completely get that but ignoring it doesn’t prevent that. If no one tests then she’s still as much at risk of having to isolate as a contact if it is covid and then someone in her immediate circle catches it and tests positive. Ruling it out would lessen the threat of having to isolate.

Personally peer pressure would have me testing ASAP. I couldn’t cope with being the person who clearly passed it on to others and being judged for not doing everything I could to alert people. It’s a no win situation since no one wants to isolate but at least I wouldn’t be potentially directly responsible for other peoples illnesses.

A year into a pandemic and people still need to ask if a test is needed when showing covid symptoms...

@Kaylasmum49

Ok, I shouldn't have asked if she should get tested because I know fully well that she should. So maybe back off with the insults eh?

Unfortunately all I can do is tell her that I think she should get a test but I simply can't force her to go for one.

I am sorry if you felt under attack.

People are being strong because it is very important. Teachers, for example, will be imagining their own communities and the people (some very vulnerable) who could be impacted.

I, for one, assumed you were asking to give you strength to persuade your daughter so assumed a very clear answer would be helpful. Apologies, if not.

But if your daughter - or anyone in the same scenario - read this, please test!!!!

@Fnib

Yes, I agree, and of course you're right, but if you remember the cold vs covid confusion in September, you can see how quickly things change.

Whether or not this was a confusion in September, it feel it probably should not be now.

After the prolonged lockdown and with all the extra safety measures, there are almost no colds going around that I am aware of in our very large school. Our attendance is extraordinary - hundreds of healthy children! I have anecdotally the same scenario from many other teachers.

To become unwell in any way would make them a real outlier and worthy of testing, especially with a cough.

By the way, the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention lists muscle or body aches, congestion or runny nose, headaches and nausea or vomiting as possible symptoms of Covid-19.

www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html

If she and people like her don’t test with symptoms then we’ll all be back in lockdown and back to homeschooling.....then she really will have something to struggle with

However, I expect that with her attitude to Covid that she managed to find a way to send her children into school, so leaving the rest of us to suffer.

Christ alive! We're a year into this pandemic and people still don't understand the rules for taking a test 😣.

If you have any of the following symptoms, you need to test:

• A new, continuous cough (3 or more coughing episodes in 24 hrs)
• A raised temperature
• Loss / change of taste smell

So YES - they need to get a test

Well if she’s so sure it’s a cold then testing is the best way of making sure she doesn’t need to isolate....she could get the results back in 24 hours.

If she’s stupid enough to try and send the kids to school and nursery they will all get sent home pretty quick once they’re heard coughing. Never mind the risk to others if it isn’t a cough.

If she’s stupid enough to try and send the kids to school and nursery they will all get sent home pretty quick once they’re heard coughing. Never mind the risk to others if it isn’t a cough

This. They’ll get sent straight home anyway so may as well test now.

@Kaylasmum49

She doesn't appear to be scared of covid but she is struggling massively with lockdown and her mental health is suffering badly. I think it's the thought of having to isolate that's her biggest concern.

Can you explain it to her that she needs to isolate or do the PCR test and then, assuming they all get a negative result, she can go out then? The results from the tests typically come back well with 24 hours at the moment.

I had cold symptoms in the first few days of COVID. only picked up as the ZOE ap sent me for a test. Proper symptoms started a couple of days later.

@DoubleDeckerSwimmer

After the prolonged lockdown and with all the extra safety measures, there are almost no colds going around that I am aware of in our very large school. Our attendance is extraordinary - hundreds of healthy children! I have anecdotally the same scenario from many other teachers.

I don’t agree with this - in the last 2 weeks, several of my daughters classmates (year 3, primary) have had colds - no temp, no cough just runny/snotty noses. All have been in class! Should they have been kept off & tested? Our school have issued no guidance on what symptoms they do not want in school. I do know of other schools who have long lists of symptoms that children must stay at home for.

My dd has used a lft which has come back negative, I have told her she still needs to isolate and book a pcr test. I've done all I can but can't force her to do anything

@Kaylasmum49

She doesn't appear to be scared of covid but she is struggling massively with lockdown and her mental health is suffering badly. I think it's the thought of having to isolate that's her biggest concern.

Sorry to hear this. A lot of people are really struggling.

Perhasp you could impress upon her that the school will think a lot better of her if she takes the responsible route, that it will be hard on her and a bit embarrassing if they get sent home.

These lft’s are counterproductive. Probably more people using them with symptoms and getting false negatives, than asymptomatic people being picked up. They are tempting after all - instant results and no isolating required. You can see the attraction.

Why are people still asking this?! It's been a year. The guidelines are quite simple to follow. FFS.

No need to attack me!! I have told her she needs to test, she says he has felt like this before and it's just a cold. They all have runny noses, 3 out of 5 have a cough. I can't force her to get tested but I have told her that it's wrong to put the dcs to school and nursery with these symptoms. I would without any hesitation have a test with those symptoms.

You didn't say any of this in your OP. So don't moan that people are reacting to it.

Yes it's hard to face up to the disruption and inconvenience, I had a temperature last week and knew it was only a sinus thing I always get every winter, and had no wish at all to cancel yet more work when lockdown's devastated work, but responsibly? I cancelled, got a test, waited for the results and when I was certain I wasn't risking anyone else carried on. The test/result cycle is so fast now, if its a negative it will have only been 24 hours she was put out.

If school or nursery send them home because they are coughing she’ll have to get them tested or isolate for 10 days anyway.
Maybe remind her of that.

My DC was sent home from nursery last week because they thought he might be coming down with something. They temperature checked him themselves and he was normal but still sent him home. As is their right.

I have tried to reason with her but I'm not getting anywhere.

I am sorry you are unable to get DD and her DC to get tested. The LFT are for people without symptoms really, so cannot guarantee the result. I would rather get the tests as she could test today and probably get results tomorrow evening. Otherwise they will all have to isolate for 10 days not knowing whether they have covid or not. I really hope she keeps to the isolation rules.

Your DD just needs to get them all tested with PCR. It's really not hard and it upsets me so much to see how lazy and reluctant people are about it. The results are within 24hrs and it's so easy to book tests on the day online. LFT will not be sufficient here.

First week back at primary a family sent siblings to school with "colds". DH is a teacher and noticed the cough and went child home later that day. By the end of the week DH tested positive, along with the TA. The Siblings teacher also tested positive few days later and I believe they also had a child from the class test positive during the isolation too. Two whole class bubbles had to isolate for 10 days, and both class teachers out of action as poorly so remote learning suffered. Meanwhile, our household had to isolate too (obvs) meaning DC missed a week and a bit of school. I'm heavily pregnant with gestational diabetes too so considered quite vulnerable. The whole thing was quite petrifying tbh. It's just wholly inconsiderate and selfish not to think of the wider implications of sending in kids to school with "just a cough".

She sounds like a selfish git putting the rest of us at risk. Of course self isolating is a pain but she could easily
Let her house spread it around potentially getting to someone more vulnerable. What an arehole